ZZR600 is a retired 2002 ZX6R.

my bad.

 

ZZR600 is a retired 2004 ZX6R.

Wrong

I thought they were baised on 00-02 so J1-J3 model...

but I do agree... what was the point? did they just have a lot of them left over due to shit sales?

Right, The sport touring market is what this version of the J model was aimed at.

As a rider of both I can say the zzr is more sport touring but sporty if that makes sence. It is an exact of the 00-02 zx6r and same technology. Its a great all around bike. Carbs though even up to 08 which is what i had. They can run wit most 600cc bikes but cheaper ins and harder to accessorize. Great bike though.

I don't know that I could have said it better.

 

I thought they were baised on 00-02 so J1-J3 model...

but I do agree... what was the point? did they just have a lot of them left over due to shit sales?

 

Different strokes for different folks.
Guess someone wanted it.
Some people here want a zx7, some would rather a new zx6R and zx6RR combo, some want the 636 back... Opinions are always going to vary. I think that Kawasaki tried to catch as many people's opinion as they could.

 

Fair explaination to be honnest

 

lol Well, it makes sense to me. If I had the capacity to sell 2 bikes instead of 1... Thereby increasing sales by possibly 2x?
Hell yeah, pass me them spare yamahondakawasakizuki plastics, we're making more bikes!

 

As a rider of both I can say the zzr is more sport touring but sporty if that makes sence. It is an exact of the 00-02 zx6r and same technology. Its a great all around bike. Carbs though even up to 08 which is what i had. They can run wit most 600cc bikes but cheaper ins and harder to accessorize. Great bike though.

 

ok, I have an 02 and the ones I looked at appear to be the same, but maybe different plastics and ergonomics. How long did they sell these zzr's that are the same as my bike? What was different for ergo, just the handlebars? In this case, is it possible for me to get some zzr handles for more ergo comfort? thanks for your answers. I was trying to get a friend to get a zx6r and he wants one, but I told him wrong, I told him zzr's were newer zx6rs.

Another question, what is the different between zx6r and zx6rr? I assume rr means race ready? thanks so much----knowledge is power

 

Well here's where it gets a bit confusing, See Kawasaki made two(2) 600cc bikes
that were named ZZR, First the E model & then the J model.
The E was the old ZX600, & the J (What I have now) was the 2,000-2,002 ZX6R.
So you had two different ZZR's the first(ZX600E) ran from 2,003-2,004.
The 2nd (based on the 2,000-2,002 ZX6R) ran from 2,005-2,008.
Does that make since?

Anyway thing is as far as I know & Iv owned both, None of the major components are interchangeable.

Is your bike an E, or a J model?

 

I have had two zzr600's but now I'm thinking at the ZX-6R What's the best one in your opinion and which is faster and is the seating position as comfy as zzr

 

I think they stopped making the ZZR partly because of the rising popularity of the 2008 and newer 250R. That and with having a 650R as well, I guess Kawasaki decided to ditch the ZZR, though it's faster and more technologically superior to both the 250 and 650. The only advantage of the 650 over the ZZR is fuel injection. The ZZR came with fully adjustable suspension and an inline 4 cylinder just like it's newer ZX6R brother. 250 and 650 have junk non adjustable suspension, which works for the average Joe I suppose, but being able to set the sag and everything for the rider is very important in my book, especially if you plan on doing more than just putsing around town.

 

I appreciate your knowledge old ninja dude. The funny thing is my bike is a J model that is titled as a 94 zx6e. The vin number is right on the frame, but even frame is newer. I do not know why someone would do this, must have a reason like new one was totaled by insurance. That is wierd what you said. They restarted old technology from 03-04?

Thanks larry, that was another thing cuz I knew they did the 636, but did not know how long, that answered some questions. That is dumb that they took a zx6r and renamed it zzr and changed the zx6r. I guess I understand that the zx6r is the race one. I need to adjust my zx6r (I call it an 02) for preset suspension. I wonder why they would want a 650 knowing it is slow, sounds like a cruiser the way some people describe it's motor.

 

That was my other question, I have heard it said zzr600's are more ergo, what made them more comfortable and I wish my zx6r was more comfortable.

 

The 98-02 ZX6R and 05-08 ZZR600 have bigger, thicker seats that are more level with the ground rather than angled forward like the 03+ ZX6R. The clip-ons on our bike are also higher up than the ZX6R, but not as high as a 250 or 650 Ninja. You can actually remove the bolt up under the upper triple tree on each side and move the clip-ons down if you so desire.

So as far as sport bikes go, you're already on the most comfortable one as is.

Just for clarification, the 98 and 99 ZX6R differ from the J model by front suspension, front fairing and ram air system, swingarm, carbs, and head. Otherwise they're very similar as well. Same tail, seat, frame, shock, etc.

 

ok heres the thing, I thought my bike was an 02 zx6r cuz the headlights, but how am I supposed to know if my bike is not really an 05-08 zzr600 then? When I got it, the front and side fairings were junk. One thing I noticed different was the coolant tank is on the left side and I thought the zx6r had it on the right, is this true?

 

look at the vin.

 

I explained this in earlier post, the thing is I got it with a vin number and title of 94 zx6e. the vin matches zx6e and is clear according to the bmv. The vin does not look tampered with, the frame is a J model frame as well as everything else I looked up about it. So I still do not actually know if I have an 00-02 style zx6r or a 05-08 zzr600. If fairings were the only difference between the two, I will never know...thanks guys

 

Pics would go along way to end the confusion here.
You say the Vin on the engine does not match the frame?? Is that what I'm reading here?
I'm not sure an E will even go into an R frame. ..???

 

Way back in 1994 didn't they call it a D model?

 

you have a 94.

all 3 of my bikes have stickers on the right side of the frame stating date built.

 

I replaced the oil pan gasket on the motor and that gasket fits J models. I look at the difference between the frame of a 94zx6e and the frame of a 02zx6r and it is definitely the zx6r frame. I am telling you that everything about the bike is a J model not the zx6e. There is a big difference. This is not just a motor swap or J parts on a 94 frame. Here is a picture.


IMG_0875 by cupofjoe_84, on Flickr

 

The only thing I can think is that someone got insurance money from totaling their J model and bought it back. They fixed it and used another vin number and stamped it. Maybe the 94 was a parts bike and had no reason for that title to go to waste. The last guy had no idea what he had, he thought it was a 94 that someone just put an 03 plastic on. He did not even know an 03 plastic was different, aren't they?

 

That's a J model ZX6R/ZZR600. Looks like you have the ZZR600 upper fairing stay.

You may be right. Someone wrecked a ZX6E and probably replaced the bike with a J model, painted it the same color as what's on the registration, and only had to pay ZX6E insturance on a ZX6R. How many people who don't ride Kawasaki know what the difference is anyways? Very few.

 

No part of that bike (as far as I can tell) is from 1994.
Even the engine is from a J model. The clutch on an D,& E have the cable mechanism on the bottom.
Did you say it has a Vin # on the frame? There should be one.
Something very funny is going on with your title. Lets hope you don't have a stolen bike.

 

I would much rather see a new 636 than a ZX7 or 9.

 

Goddamn, I read this whole thread and am confused as a mofo! I have an 09' Monster Ed. Are all 09'+ just ZX6r's or are there different types too? Sorry if I sound stupid.

 

Kawasaki stopped making the ZZR600 in 2008, so since 2009 there has only been one 599 cc in production.

 

The zx6r is more sport orientated than the zzr600, dont get me wrong nothing wrong with zzr600 just more of a sport/touring bike, still bloody fast also.

 

Not sure, But I believe the UK never got the newer/J model based ZZRs.
How about that Fritz, did you guys get the J model ZZR?

 

Thanks for the help Larry J and others. The fairings were messed up so they were trash. I bought the 02 upper fairing cuz from looking at pics of different years of zx6r, I knew this was had to be the 00-02. That was before I realized there were zzr600's basically the same. The fairing fits cuz it goes around the headlight, so here is another simple question, 05-08 zzr600 has the same headlight? Do you guys know of any difference between the J model zx6r and the J model zzr600? It sounds like there is no difference so I will never know exactly what year I have.