I always soak over night, tbh you can't have to much oil

 

I put mine in a pressure cooker with some oil.

 

You can slather oil on them and go. No need to soak, they don't soak up anything.

No doubt some will reply I'm making that up, but feel free to use a digital caliper and measure them dry and after "soaking" over night. They'll be the exact same. The only reason they tell you to put oil on them is to prevent any initial chatter/sticking of the fibers the first few times you pull in the clutch to prevent it from being "grabby".

If anyone thinks the oil 'soaked' into the fibers gets retained when you pull the clutch in at 10,000 RPMs, I have some ocean front property in Montana I'd love to sell you.

 

^ ha ha ha ....

It is a wet clutch, they need to be wet!!!!!!!!!! and while you most certainly do not need to soak them overnight or even for more than a couple minutes (since modern day clutch run much drier than they did in the 70's or 80's when part of the clutch basket was commonly in the oil bath and modern day baskets are high above the oil line and feed far less oil to the clutch plates)

The frictions do indeed "soak in some oil"......... how about you weigh them dry then weigh them wet and you will see the difference......nobody anywhere except possibly an idiot on the internet claimed they soak in oil and get thicker, how the fuck would that work for setting up stack height.....jesus!!!

only an idiot would claim a wet clutch can run dry with the only side effect being a little chatter......fucking dumbs, too many fucking dumbs!

 

So what's the weight difference? Since you're such an expert

 

It's enough for me to remember basic physics... Porosity is a factor. The frictions are made of material that is compressed onto their backing plates under tremendous pressure, same as brakea pads. If you think about it, they're doing very similar jobs. If you contaminate brake pads, it's common practice to replace because you can't get the oil back out of them. The steels also absorb a tiny amount of oil, same a a cast iron pan or a wok seasons.

we've all seen the presentation where the professor fills a glass container with large things, then pours in finer material to fill the gaps, then does it again with something finer yet...... and then fills the glass with a liquid.

That process continues down to the atomic scale. There's room in the friction materials to absorb some amount of oil.

 

Would these friction & steel plates, if assembled completely dry, not absorb oil when there's 40+PSI of oil being pushing through the clutch basket oiling holes?

 

^ You are being a complete fucking idiot!!!!!!!!!

but hey that is your prerogative!

 

Again, all insults with zero support for your argument.

Who is being the idiot?

 

And still you have given zero proof of your argument........
ZERO !! just some bullshit speculative statement making the claim that because some drag racers put them in dry and change them often that it must be okay for everyone..........
STUPID statement that doesn't even relate to any normal rider who isn't getting clutches for free and doesn't have a crew of mechanics doing all the work via sponsorship monies

you are still being the fucking idiot that is who!

 

And still you have given zero proof of your argument........
ZERO !! just some bullshit speculative statement making the claim that because some drag racers put them in dry and change them often that it must be okay for everyone..........
STUPID statement that doesn't even relate to any normal rider who isn't getting clutches for free and doesn't have a crew of mechanics doing all the work via sponsorship monies

you are still being the fucking idiot that is who!

My "proof" is my personal experience, as well as friends and the open invitation to anyone to go to their local drag track and see the same thing I'm mentioning.

Like I stated before, I'm always open to changing my own program if I find a better/easier route that works. You've shown nothing so far.

So it's you that's stating that you have to oil them, but soaking them overnight isn't needed. But some clutch manufactures state to soak them over night, so why are you not agreeing with the maker of the fibers?

It's hysterical that your replies can be used as a copy and paste against yourself. Your small brained, child like responses do nothing to further your stance to the point where your own argument is exactly what you stated - a "just some bullshit speculative statement".

Nut up or shut up. Show me these failed clutches from being installed dry. If soaking clutch plates was known to extend clutch life, wouldn't every single drag racer have their plates pre soaked in baggies before install? Some do, a lot do not. Arguably they are the biggest crowd that are hardest on clutches.

Thus far, the only thing you're capable of is retorting with remarks that do nothing to contribute to the topic at hand.

 

My 40 years in the business servicing motorcycles for a living trumps your stupidity and unproven claims of some dragstrip nonsense that doesn't apply to any real world scenario...........

My experience trumps your stupidity and is cdertainly greater proof than anything you have offered!!

 

So in those 40 years, I'm guessing you got stuck fixing a lot of fuck up projects that someone tried fixing their bike themselves and brought it to you.

In those 40 years, how many clutches did you have to fix because they installed them dry, and wasn't tied to anything else (stack height, lack of free play, etc)?

Rhetorical question, because I know the answer is zero, otherwise you would have stated that from the get go.

- What exactly keeps the clutch plates oiled once the springs have compressed the assembly?

- What exactly keeps the clutch plates from not getting properly lubricated with the oil passages in the clutch basket that shoot 30+PSI of oil into the clutch pack the second you pull the clutch in?

This is almost as fun as debating if you should prefill the oil filter before install or not.

 

Since you guys pretend to know so much about clutches, any suggestions on base settings for this bad boy? Trying to go fast.

 

Just be sure to keep the KY lube away from the clutch pack, that might be bike porn but for the love of god dont mix the fluids.