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I test rode a Ducati 796 Monster today

3.5K views 26 replies 12 participants last post by  sbk1198  
#1 ·
Yep...just as the title says.
I wasn't really after a new bike, nor am I now but the opportunity arose - so I said OK and did about 20km.

DAMN was it fun.
I had ridden an EBR1190RX a few years ago and the Vtwin was nice - but I didn't think it was that phenomenal and didn't understand the fuss.
Well enter the Ducati Vtwin and wow. I can certainly see the appeal; the grunt, the noises, the pull...hang on, what am I describing here :wink? Snap crackle and pop upon deceleration due to the aftermarket exhausts, but not a like Jap I4, it was more...musical.

Not an apples to apples comparison obviously since the ZX-6R is a totally different style to the Monster. Looking at the power outputs, the ZX has about 30hp more, but lacks the peak FLAT torque curve the Monster has. I even thought the Monster had quicker turn in at street speeds.

I seriously want to get a Ducati Monster now.
 
#2 ·
If it has two wheels and runs well there all fun.

Before you jump, do yourself a favor. Try a Daytona, FZ9, Speed triple. All are 3 cylinder engines that give the grunt of a two and top end of a four cylinder.

I know of a 1050 engine that was running at 175k miles. Don't know of many Duc's that have ever done it.
My Speed triple had 56k miles before it need the first valve adjustment.

Try doing all the work on the Duc, will say when they run, they run well until they don't.

Wish you the best on your endeavor.
 
#12 ·
Yes, a Triumph is something I have not tried yet. If I were to get something, it would definitely be along the lines of a Street/Speed Triple/Monster etc. the Ducati and Triumph superbikes are miniscule and only a masochist would commit to riding it on the street :BigGrin

They have also majorly improved in reliability and maintainability in recent years, really good to see more manufacturers in the game doing well. That Speed Triple is a beautiful motorcycle.
 
#3 ·
The biggest tragedy in motorcycling is that the japanese manufacturers largely ignored sporty v-twins. I never understood why people liked them either until my buddy bought an RC51 and I got to ride it a couple of times.

I would really like a twin myself but can't justify the possible cost of upkeep for a Ducati and the fact that the closest dealer is hours away so if something major goes wrong I wouldn't have much recourse.

The "new" hotness is the V-four though so even Ducati is packing up the V-twin sport bike and relegating it too the history books :(
 
#11 ·
The RC51 SP1/SP2 is one bike I have lusted after for a long time, they do turn up for sale regularly, but each time that price is higher and higher.
I suspect with the decreased market share for sports bikes the Japanese manufacturers are not interested in committing to a very expensive engine development programme of a new range of V twins.
 
#4 ·
Sounds like a fun bike. I just traded my ZX6R for a BMW F800GT. 90hp but nice torque but a somewhat dull motor. Handles nicely with an effortless turn in. It even comes stock with a steering damper. I’ve been having trouble running it into the rev limier though. Still don’t know why a motorcycle company can’t make a supersport based sport touring machine. More upright position, comfortable seat, lower foot pegs a small amount and revise plastics. Oh, and a more powerful stator for some heated gear.
 
#5 ·
Sounds like a fun bike. I just traded my ZX6R for a BMW F800GT. 90hp but nice torque but a somewhat dull motor. Handles nicely with an effortless turn in. It even comes stock with a steering damper. I’ve been having trouble running it into the rev limier though. Still don’t know why a motorcycle company can’t make a supersport based sport touring machine. More upright position, comfortable seat, lower foot pegs a small amount and revise plastics. Oh, and a more powerful stator for some heated gear.
You mean like the H2 SX?
https://www.kawasaki.com/Products/2018-Ninja-H2SX-SE
 
#7 ·
Yeah they're really fun bikes! I've ridden the 1100 and also the 821. I liked them both, but the 821 is smoother and has a bit more power. I would love to have an 1100 or 796 in my garage though just because it's an air-cooled twin. The sound of those engines is just amazing! They're pretty comfy too for medium distance rides and urban riding, as well as fun on the twisties of course.
 
#14 ·
Suzuki SV series are very fun, super reliable but very basic suspension. Ducati Supersport is a very nice bike, much to my surprise. Modern electronics, decent power, more upright ergos make it a do it all jack of all trades.
 
#16 ·
Hummm, lots of interesting ideas and comments. My daughter has asked me to take the twins ( 4 1/2) so she can have a lunch date with her husband. Maybe I'll sing by the motorcycle shop and quickly look while alternating no and stop instructions. Twins love to try out the go karts and side by sides. That's what got me in trouble in the first place. Took them by and saw a nice used BMW that had just been marked down .....

Looked at a Daytona 675 back in 2012 but bought a CBR600RR. What swayed me was the reliability and parts availability of the Honda. I ride a lot and don't waiting on parts. In 2016 when I bought the ZX6R I looked at a Ducati 899 and loved the electronics but was put off by parts availability, reliability and heat issues. Also read some stuff about it being picky about the rear tire size. Looked at a Suzuki GSXS1000F but really don't want a liter bike. I like a small lightweight bike.

Japanese bike are very reliable and relatively easy to get parts for and there are a lot of folks that think they can work on them.

Rode the BME 300 miles the other day and it was nice, fast enough and on a longer ride nice to have the side cases to put stuff in. Miss the playful attitude of the ZX6R, it was always ready to play.