I just returned from my afternoon ride and the FXCNC steering damper is working great. I settled on 14 clicks out from the softest setting.

This is definitely a nice upgrade for 70.00, with tax and fast shipping it cost me 112.00. I installed/uninstalled it a few times to get the best possible fit.

This will require frequent maintenance to make sure the screws are tight and the unit is working but it's definitely better than not have any damper IMO.

 

Interesting

 

6 month update:

The FXCNC damper is working great with no issues at all. If installed correctly and checked regularly this unit will perform great.

 

6 month update:

The FXCNC damper is working great with no issues at all. If installed correctly and checked regularly this unit will perform great.

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On the filter did you get the racing one or regular?

 

Meh. Chinese junk - the mounting hardware is a pain in the arse if you're wanting to get the tank off to do work. I swapped mine out for the Ohlins - much safer especially for track work.

 

The mounting hardware is identical to the Ohlins? I posted the Ohlins install video which clearly shows the hardware is identical.

Yes it's Chinese but not junk IMO, and it's 100usd with shipping vs 500+usd for the Ohlins.

https://www.fxcnc.us

The Ohlins is obviously superior but for street duty the FXCNC is doing just fine and is better than having no damper IMO. After 6 months and over 3k miles the FXCNC has been problem free and working as expected.

I've installed and uninstalled this damper over a dozen times and it takes only couple of minutes, the Ohlins will take the same amount of time since it's the same process.

Here is a pic of the Ohlins kit, cost 650 dollar and the FXCNC kit 70 dollars for comparison.

Here is the Ohlins install video showing the hardware/installation is identical to the FXCNC

 

^^^
Basically a Chinese blueprint. But if it works, then it works!!!

 

It's junk. Make sure you use red rtv because most of the bolts are going to work their way loose. And no just comparing photos does not show how much better the Ohlins is. And this coming from a guy who has had both.

You pay yours money and you take your risk...

 

Well, you said the FXCNC hardware is a pain in the arse but it is identical to the Ohlins? If you had both you would know there is absolutely no difference between the 2. Maybe you had some other Chinese knockoff? Not sure how you make that mistake.

The bolts will come loose if you don't install the unit correctly. I've had ZERO issues with bolts coming loose and ZERO leaks in 6 months and 3k miles. The only difference between the FXCNC and the Ohlins is the damper itself, the hardware/installation is nearly identical.

If you install the FXCNC unit incorrectly and don't check/tighten the end caps you may experience leaks or the bolts coming loose. The 2 biggest mistakes people make with the FXCNC is not checking the end caps and putting a washer on the pivot bolt which will cause the bolt to come loose after a few rides. I made it clear in the OP how to install the unit so it works without any issues.

The FXCNC doesn't come with any instructions which is probably the reason why so many people have problems due to incorrect installation.

 

I am most certainly in the ....... made in china is shit camp and do not feel a 3 month test is even remotely indicative of long term service test

great that the OP has had no issues to date but I have seen this and several other chineseum garbage copyright infringed dampers come through the shop not working for various reasons...

Why reward a company that is blatantly stealing from another company?

Why reward a country that absolutely hates us and their only contribution to the world is child labor camps of stolen patents and copyrights???

fuck chineseum garbage and fuck joe biden

 

It's been 6 months and 3k miles chief and obviously that is not a long term endorsement. Everyone can choose for themselves which damper to buy, I'm only offering my experience with the FXCNC as a guide.

Fuck Ohlins overpriced parts and Fuck Trump

 

Somehow I fall between these camps as my ‘09 still has the OEM Ohlins damper installed, which has had zero effect on my bike’s handling since I bought it roughly 11 years and 60K miles ago. Just a useless piece of eye candy as delivered, and I have never felt the need to get it revalved/serviced.

And btw, bitching about either major party candidate just takes the pressure off the shit show that we are being fed by both sides.

Vote all the incumbents out. Clear the cesspool. Put meaningful limits on their behavior. Any action without reaction is a ticket to ream someone.

 

I've high sided in the past as a result of a violent steering event which is why I will never ride without a steering damper. I wouldn't call it a useless piece of eye candy, but a nice safety feature that may help prevent a Superman over the bars which I assure you sucks major ass.

 

^^^ It’s a physics problem that the mechanical engineering team at Kawasaki has spent decades refining the solution to. The legal staff weighs in as well…. Can’t lose the company through complicit bad engineering.

If the geometry is close to the stock settings and the suspension + frame and structure is in good condition…… a tank slapper during street riding is so unlikely that a steering damper is effectively useless (in the sense that it has no functionality).

Given the OEM installation on my ‘09 (& continued through’12) how come Kawasaki REMOVED the damper with the ‘13+ models when they make MORE power?

 

Actually it's more than a physics problem, it's a shit happens problem that is outside of physics and geometry, etc. I've been riding street bikes since 86 and have encountered all kinds of crazy shit on the roads.

Saying there is no need for a damper because a tank slapper will never occur is a very limited and incorrect view. I understand and appreciate your detailed response and you are correct with your statement but that is only a single causality. Personally I have never had a tank slapper and that is not the primary reason I have the damper. I've watched vids of tank slappers and that is some terrifying shit so I'm glad I won't be experiencing a tank slapper thanks to my 70 dollar correctly installed Chinese damper .

I hit debris on the road and the wheel jerked to the right throwing me off like a raging bull. I was flying thru the air looking down at the yellow lines and turned my head to see if I had a date with the front of a Lincoln. Thankfully nothing was coming and while bloody and bruised I was able to get back on the bike and ride it home. That shit gets burned into your mind and never leaves. I can see that event like it was yesterday, it was 30 years ago. Some guy who saw the crash yelled, "you're fucking nuts" when I got back on the bike and rode away.

Here is a perfect example of what I experienced while riding and why I will not ride without a steering damper. The purpose of the damper is to stop a violent steering event from throwing you off the bike and it is absolutely not limited to a tank slapper. In the video below the steering damper probably saved his ass.

I'm wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Had said damper. Speaking from experience here. It is junk. I can post pics if you like.

I would never have another piece of junk Chinese thing on my bike which pertains to safety (e.g. damper, brakes, rear-sets) - the metal they use is just not up to scratch. But like I said YMMV. Just hope it doesn't fail at ridiculous speeds some people seem to do on the street...

I would be interested in seeing pics and your experience of what failed. I've watched videos from others that installed the unit incorrectly and therefore the bolts came loose. The most common mistake is the center pivot bolt comes loose while steering because the washer or oring was installed in that location. The second most common problem is leaking oil because the end caps were not checked and tightened.

I've made is very clear in my instructions how to install it and what to check. If you install something incorrectly that doesn't make it junk. In your original response you made an incorrect statement about the mounting being different than the Ohlins so I'm curious how you made such a blatant mistake in your description of the FXCNC vs. the Ohlins if the hardware is identical?

"the mounting hardware is a pain in the arse if you're wanting to get the tank off to do work. I swapped mine out for the Ohlins "

You also mentioned bolts coming loose so it sounds like you made the most common installation mistake of installing the washer or oring with the pivot bolt.

 

A cattle guard is very similar to a manhole cover, railroad tracks, built up sand in a lane, ice…… one big knock should still not set off a tank slapper unless the suspension is compromised and the front wheel is skipping along the pavement. Rake and trail will center the wheel 99.99999% of the time.

I too started riding street bikes routinely in’85, after riding dirt/trail bikes since ‘71. It’s fair to say conditions that are likely to set off a tank slapper should be much greater off road…. Rougher surfaces, reduced traction, lots more jumping and wheelies.

I don’t recall ever seeing a motocross bike fitted with a steering damper. Or a trail bike, or a dual sport.

Almost all these types of bike use very similar rake and trail to SS bikes, and have wider spacing on their steering locks. If anything, far more prone to that ‘slapper’. I may be mistaken, I have not seen routine use of a damper on any of these.

 

We must be around the same age since I started riding mini bikes around 72/73 at 5 years old. Rode dirt bikes and 3 wheelers around the Appalachian Ramapo mountains my entire life. Didn't have any dampers that's for certain. I've had the steering ripped out of my hands a few times in the mountains because of rocks, ditches, etc.

There are is a fuck ton of shit on the roads that will cause the steering to become unstable but hey, good for you that you have such an outstanding setup that you can withstand any imperfection or oh shit moment.

IMO and from my brief experience as Superman, It's better to have a damper and never use it than not have a damper and wish you had one while flying thru the air.

Here is a quick video from MC garage with some basic damper info for new riders.

No mistakes made in install. The metal is not up to scratch. Do your homework. Or wait till it breaks.

You must be a comedian on the side. You obviously made a few mistakes because you said the hardware was different when it is actually identical, and the bolt would come loose which only happens when you install it incorrectly.

I obviously did my research and figured out what works and what doesn't work. So if you want to know how to install it correctly read my instructions. You telling me to do research is hysterical.

Chinese metal is not up to par with what? A steering damper?

 

No mistakes made in install. The metal is not up to scratch. Do your homework. Or wait till it breaks.

 

I’m roughly 5 years older— born in’61.

I haven’t owned a motorcycle that I haven’t crashed, and am man enough to admit that. An oh shit moment is the result of bad planning, or ignorance of the actual conditions someone is riding in.

None of my (motorcycle) crashes have involved another vehicle, and can be traced back to a bad decision on my part…. and all will include a statement to the effect of too fast for conditions.

Perhaps the biggest difference in our approach is that I think it’s extremely important to ride within your sight line. If you can’t stop in the space you can see, you’re over driving the sight line.

just my two cents. That’s cost me broken ribs, a separated shoulder, and many individual road rashes figuring it out.

 

Bangs head against wall..............

Someone is obviously so obsessed with his chineseum damper that despite others experiences and even his own, he is blinded by the fact he demands a damper is the saving grace of god for everyone and damn you to hell if you don't agree.....

Well we know who supports chineseum trash and who doesn't and we also all know who buys into hype and advertising and who doesn't.......

Bad set up of bike and bad riding practices are what cause tank slappers and the damper only masks those problems for the people who refuse to fix the root problem---usually the nutcase behind the bars

 

Can't wait for the post when he totals the bike as it wouldn't allow him to turn into a corner...

Face it, it's a piece of shit. You get what you paid for. And the Ohlins the 2009-2012 bikes were equipped with is not valved sufficiently to have any effect (basically to prevent users from turning it way up and then not being able to turn on a street bike) so you need to get it redone by Ohlins. I got mine from Hardracing and have never looked back. Especially down the back-straight of Manfeild.

One thing I do wish is that the bike was equipped with something like what the modern ZX10R has - as in an electronic damper that detects oscillation. Maybe if Kawasaki do a new Gen ZX6R they might consider it? Who knows...probably not as the ZX6R tends to be built to a budget.

 

He would never admit that his chineseum damper was at fault or had a problem at this point, he walked off that cliff of blindly promoting and defending them and their quality and need to have one---no coming back from that kind of stupid....

 

Pretty sure this is Chinese, but the reviews are all pretty good. Some Chinese companies are stepping up their quality.

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I am willing to bet more than half of all reviews on amazon are not from actual people who purchased

I am willing to bet that the majority of the rest of the reviews are from dolts too ignorant and stupid to recognize good build quality from crap built quality unless it pukes all the oil out at them instantly........

So that leaves me very skeptical of any claims from anyone I do not personally know and can verify they know anything about anything motorcycling or otherwise.......

I have seen far too many ignorant stupid fucks in 40 years of wrenching on bikes and dealing with ignorant uneducated customers to believe even 5% of them know anything at all about what is good and what isn't........ christ half of them believe their bikes run great as they arrive........ or that cords showing on the tire is a sign of; getting all your monies worth, not dangerous, proves they know how to ride etc etc etc.......

The world is full of far too many absolute ignorant stupid fucks who are too fucking lazy or too fucking stupid to actually know they are that fucking ignorant and stupid

 

I just passed 8k miles and the FXCNC damper has worked flawlessly without any leaks or screws coming loose while riding. Since I purchased this unit 1 year ago the price has gone up from 70.00 USD to 93.00 USD but it's still a good option for anyone who wants the security of a steering damper but does not want to pay 600-700 USD.

 

The problem with arguments about steering dampers centers on the need to prove or disprove a negative. Very nearly as bad as a discussion about engine oil, or coolant. Purely subjective, with no quality evidence to support any claims concerning performance. A sample set of 1 does nothing to answer a statistical question.

8K miles with a cheap damper and no slappers/crashes, my 52K miles with an effectively useless Ohlins OEM damper and no tank slappers, have exactly the same value in terms of this discussion.

Every ZX6R built from 2013-present that is sold WITHOUT a damper at all..... I would expect there are some millions of miles ridden across every continent and every imaginable road condition...... if a damper was as critical as you suggest, it is reasonable to expect that Kawasaki would have issued a recall, or faced a substantial number of lawsuits claiming negligence. So far as I am aware, no such action has taken place. I don't know the production numbers for ZX6 each year. I'd be shocked if it wasn't at least 60K bikes per year. Over the last 10 years, that will almost certainly exceed half a million bikes.

Can the suspension of a bike be adjusted to the point where slappers are more easily set off? Of course they can. The ID10T adjustment is always possible. Engineering can only go so far to protect people from themselves. If the front of the bike is so stiff that you can easily do a stoppie, odds are very good that the tire will not remain on the pavement consistently. It will bounce off. Bent or misaligned fork tubes that have more stiction than a properly adjusted setup will contribute as well. Worn out tires, low air pressure, bad wheel bearings, bad steering neck bearings, bent rims....... the number of times you'll find an OEM configuration which experiences any sort of slapper, will be dwarfed by the number that involve someone d*cking around with their bike and getting it wrong. Physics, thou art a bitch.

Of course, YMMV.

./ 0.02

 

The problem with arguments about steering dampers centers on the need to prove or disprove a negative. Very nearly as bad as a discussion about engine oil, or coolant. Purely subjective, with no quality evidence to support any claims concerning performance. A sample set of 1 does nothing to answer a statistical question.

8K miles with a cheap damper and no slappers/crashes, my 52K miles with an effectively useless Ohlins OEM damper and no tank slappers, have exactly the same value in terms of this discussion.

Every ZX6R built from 2013-present that is sold WITHOUT a damper at all..... I would expect there are some millions of miles ridden across every continent and every imaginable road condition...... if a damper was as critical as you suggest, it is reasonable to expect that Kawasaki would have issued a recall, or faced a substantial number of lawsuits claiming negligence. So far as I am aware, no such action has taken place. I don't know the production numbers for ZX6 each year. I'd be shocked if it wasn't at least 60K bikes per year. Over the last 10 years, that will almost certainly exceed half a million bikes.

Can the suspension of a bike be adjusted to the point where slappers are more easily set off? Of course they can. The ID10T adjustment is always possible. Engineering can only go so far to protect people from themselves. If the front of the bike is so stiff that you can easily do a stoppie, odds are very good that the tire will not remain on the pavement consistently. It will bounce off. Bent or misaligned fork tubes that have more stiction than a properly adjusted setup will contribute as well. Worn out tires, low air pressure, bad wheel bearings, bad steering neck bearings, bent rims....... the number of times you'll find an OEM configuration which experiences any sort of slapper, will be dwarfed by the number that involve someone d*cking around with their bike and getting it wrong. Physics, thou art a bitch.

Of course, YMMV.

./ 0.02

Steering dampers will help protect against any abnormal steering event that is outside the control of geometry or physics, why you can't understand that a mystery. You want to focus on tank slappers but that is missing the point entirely. You have obviously never encountered an object in the road that has caused the front wheel or steering to become unstable, good for you. I have and I went over the top as a result so I have actual experience behind me. I believe you stated that cattle grates, manhole covers, or other imperfections are all similar which is false. Each and every imperfection encountered has many variables that are unique and can have unexpected results.

I posted a video of a rider who filmed a violent steering event similar to what happened to me and he stated it was the second time the steering damper likely saved him from a crash.

Here is the video that clearly shows how a steering damper can help avoid a crash when an unexpected object is encountered while riding. This is nearly identical to my event but since I had no damper I high sided.

A steering damper can save your life so comparing them to oil and coolant discussions is nonsense, pointless and shows your lack of understanding on the subject.

 

I’ve hit things like that which is displayed in that video more times than I can count. Manhole covers railroad tracks, painted lines in wet conditions, road debris, pot holes, even ladders, rocks, landscaping timbers ….. not one tank slapper.

Leaned over, upright, under hard acceleration, hard braking….. no tank slappers.

What was shown in that video is a single head shake. I’ve experienced this multiple times, probably on the order of 1/10th the number of times I’ve had to hit road debris….. can that turn into a slapper? Of course it could. (See discussion concerning afu set up)

Does that video show the damper ‘saving’ the rider? IMHO, it does not.

Just another day at the office. One shake, move along.

 

Look professor Geo, the video clearly shows the rider stating that he feels the steering damper saved him, and mentioned that is the second time the steering damper saved him. I agree with the rider after watching the video which is why I posted it and since I experienced a similar event and went over the top as a result of not having a steering damper.

Tank slapper, low tire pressure, hitting an object, etc. can all result is the steering becoming unstable and having a steering damper will help mitigate the risk. Telling someone in a hospital bed or a widow that her husband didn't have good geometry isn't going to go over to well Ace.

Stating that you've hit all kinds of stuff and never had a problem shows you lack a fundamental understand of how life actually works. I've crossed the street a thousand times and never been hit by a car, so what the fuck does my experience have to do with the guy who got killed while walking across the street?

 

Thankfully you don't care about this subject and I'm arguing your point so you can either move on or start your own thread on the subject and bore everyone to death.

Tanks slappers don't cause high sides? Once again you are making incorrect statements and focusing on high sides is missing the point and veering off course. It may not be the primary cause but anything is possible once the steering becomes unstable which is why steering dampers exist. I already told you I high sided after a hitting an object which caused the steering to become unstable and another member also posted his experience but don't let that stop you from constantly making incorrect statements on the subject and contradicting video and first hand accounts.

Anything that causes the steering to become unstable can result in a crash so what difference does it make if it's high or low side? I guess I'm arguing your point again right?

 

Regular K&N air filter should be used for street use.

 

Late to the party, but I'm in both camps.
We are about same age, started riding motorcycles at the age of 10 in 1970.
Never have I experienced a tank slapper on road or track. I guess lucky, but I have always maintained and adjusted suspension settings. I follow Dave Moss now and it has improved my set ups even more.
I have the Ohlin OEM, so did have to buy it.
I like the look and the "mental" safety it might provide. I won't buy Chinese, unless I have no choice. I don't mind paying for the name that did the R&D and uses high quality materials. You can tell by the look and feel of the parts when comparing these 2 dampers, which one is of an inferior quality. Does it mean it won't perform? Not at all, unless wrongly installed.
So, to each his own. This is like which oil or tires are best. LOL
Hope no one crashes and we all enjoy riding.

 

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

Hey, I've just bought - and will install this weekend - this damper. It may be Chinese, but if so, it probably did steal some contract-production design that was built in probably the same factory. This product probably doesn't need extreme material properties, and I will check it on arrival for good manufacturing tolerance and construction (i.e. disassemble it and clean out the gunk).

I intend to race with it. The reason I bought it is the race conversion I'm doing on my '17 636 (if you look at my post history, yeah, I'm finally getting to it).

I'm not planning on using China-made rotors or brakepads. I think with careful inspection, low-stress parts like the damper will be fine.

For the 'properly set up and maintained suspension' crowd - yes, I agree. The geometry should help fix egregious issues. However, every racing org I've ever been a licensed member of requires a damper - because racers have Shit Happen. It could be worn bearings (steering head, front wheel), swingarm bushings, or inconsistent fork damping, and tankslappers can happen because racing incidents loft the front wheel (not just throttle, but debris from a crash you're surrounded by as it's happening, for example).

I'll offer an informed opinion after the first trackday/practice session later this month. Right now the bike has Michelin street tires on it, and I'll swap to Pirelli race rubber during the setup track time, so I can offer opinion with both tire profiles/construction. FWIW, I'm a believer in Ohlins quality - I've got a TTX shock, but the 30mm fork carts are on backorder until Aug. This means a Gold Valve kit and respringing - this is my sixth racebike (last one had AK-Gas carts), and tenth fork/shock upgrade, and I've been racing for 25 years (Old Guys Rule, and I'm pretty old). Point is, I am as qualified as anyone to judge the FX damper. Hope you'll accept that and not make me come over there to prove it

Lastly, I don't know about the guy in this thread who started the political crap about China and 'F Joe Biden' - after a year of Ukraine and Xi publicly warning the US to not sanction China 'or else' while intimating war by 2027 over Taiwan... what's your thought now? (actually, best to move that to some other part of the forum allowing politics).

 

I've been using the FXCNC for nearly 10k miles and it has worked without any issues. I do recommend that you check the end caps and center bolt on a regular bases and carry the tools needed to check the unit while out riding. The Chinese damper does not come with install instructions and if you install a washer in the center pivot bolt location the bolt will come loose. I made a post about the correct way to install the FXCNC so it doesn't fail.

I high sided in the late 80's on a GPZ 550 after hitting some road debris so I think a steering damper is great safety feature, especially on SS class motorcycles. Bouncing off the pavement a few times after flying over the handlebars will change your tune, believe me.

Also, steering damper threads are not on the same level as oil threads because dampers can save your life and who the fuck cares about which oil you are using.

And if geometry was the answer to every scenario why are steering dampers required at some tracks and offered as OEM equipment on some motorcycles? The answer is, geometry is not the answer.

 

Marketing works wonders. People see track bike has wings, dampers, upside down forks, etc. then it must be added to a street bike, because it's better.
And not to restart the war of a damper needed or not. It's an opinion like oils, brake pads and tires. Like I said, never had a tank slapper, but I like the "mental" safety of having a damper.
The requirement on SOME tracks and some brands putting them on some models is no proof that they are needed.
So who's to say that the tracks that don't require them and the brands that don't put them on the bike are wrong to do so? Maybe their engineers at R&D say they are not needed.
Dave Moss a suspension guru and world known, does not use a steering damper on any of his race bikes. I don't know your line of work or background, but I doubt you work on suspension or have more experience/miles on road or track than him.
See below.

I'm out of this now, I won't engagepast this.
Peace

 

Marketing works wonders. People see track bike has wings, dampers, upside down forks, etc. then it must be added to a street bike, because it's better.
And not to restart the war of a damper needed or not. It's an opinion like oils, brake pads and tires. Like I said, never had a tank slapper, but I like the "mental" safety of having a damper.
The requirement on SOME tracks and some brands putting them on some models is no proof that they are needed.
So who's to say that the tracks that don't require them and the brands that don't put them on the bike are wrong to do so? Maybe their engineers at R&D say they are not needed.
Dave Moss a suspension guru and world known, does not use a steering damper on any of his race bikes. I don't know your line of work or background, but I doubt you work on suspension or have more experience/miles on road or track than him.
See below.

I'm out of this now, I won't engagepast this.
Peace

but technically it’s not an opinion lol. I think it’s pretty well proven that you don’t have to have a damper. Way more miles put on bikes safely without dampeners than with.
I have rode some sort of bike since I was 8. Never had a tank slapper on the road aside from one small one on a stunt bike where I was wheeling and way to low air pressure on a clapped out bike. Those where issues I was to be blamed for

Off road I did Baja on a 450 adventure bike. 110 through the sand you would get slight bar wobbles and you could just power out of them. The only time I have ever seen them used on bikes are road bikes. I’d think if they were a “needed” thing every bike manufacturer would install them as standard equipment. Manufacturers get a bad name when they start killing people and a dampener would be an easy simple thing to just have as standard equipment. I’m in the mind set there more of a baindaid type solution to over come bad suspension, bearings, tires, riding skills ext But that’s just my opinion. Doesn’t matter I share the same opinion with 90% of the motorcycle community lol. We could all be wrong.
But I still can’t see how they could save a rider from a high side tho. Scninja guy swears he has the experience to support the theory I just can’t personally understand how that could help. The video provided as “proof” just looks like a common head shake to me. I experience those quiet often and they leave as fast as they come. But he obviously had a traumatic wreck back in the day and if having a cheap China dampener on his bike now makes him feel safe, comfortable, confident and keeps him riding. Then I say it’s money well spent.

hell I have a small pink elastic band this little girl from Saint Jude’s gave me 10 years ago to “keep me safe” and I swear I feel off if I don’t stick that on each new bike I buy to ride as my regular lol.
some guys swear by demon bells. If this China junk makes dude feel safer and better I say go for it 👍

 

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