[riverszzr]

So............

OP made an intersting comment

he said it continued to leak for 15-20 minutes after he shut off the engine and parked it until it was completely empty.......... (I can assume he means the site glass empty, but maybe he pulled the drain plug and it truly was empty????)

So OP........... expound on this!!!

and I still say, fill the fucker up, start it up and look for the leak! once you find said leak then you know what to do!!!

as mentioned if in fact it is the filter- you are boned totally for any future warranty if Kawasaki has to find this, if you find it and they don't know- warranty intact...... certainly is not Ma Kaw's problem you installed one of the shittiest filters ever made with the highest failure rate of all filters made (regardless if you had good luck in the past with them or not- they are trash garbage! and you rolled the dice and won for a while and now apparently lost big)

 

[BenjamminAb]

I've never had problems with k&n oil filters personally and appreciate the ability to safety wire them. However I highly doubt you can achieve the 17ft/lbs of torque required with just your hands especially where its located on the zx6. Motorcycle oil filters are not like cars and must be installed tighter. Despite what someone said above you will totally be okay to give the filter another 1/4 to 1/2 a turn (until its snug) with a good fitting socket and ratchet and call it a day just don't go crazy on it

 

[riverszzr]

I've never had problems with k&n oil filters personally and appreciate the ability to safety wire them. However I highly doubt you can achieve the 17ft/lbs of torque required with just your hands especially where its located on the zx6. Motorcycle oil filters are not like cars and must be installed tighter. Despite what someone said above you will totally be okay to give the filter another 1/4 to 1/2 a turn (until its snug) with a good fitting socket and ratchet and call it a day just don't go crazy on it

That is like a teenager saying...........

I have never had cancer so I will never have cancer.............just fucking stupid!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BenjamminAb]

Your logic is pretty flawed here. Because some people have had cancer we all are going to have it... right. Any good mechanic will tell you there's no such thing as a known good part, even oem have failures brand new, hence recalls and libraries worth of bulletins. You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a powersports dealer/shop that doesn't have at least one k&n on their shelves.

 

[Scumbag]

I have worked in a dealership since I was 13. Have never seen an oem filter fail. Never. Not one. Not an issue. Ever. K&n on the other hand. Have seen Several. And have heard stories of several. Dank wheelie on YouTube literally has a video of his K&n blowing in half and damn near killing him. That’s just the last failure that comes to mind. We are not the fkn manufacturer. Matters shit to us rather your bike blows to shit or runs fine People are giving you facts based on experience. Take it. Or leave it. We really don’t give a shit.


If you bring us a bike to service and ask for K&n we ask you to find someone else. When You work on people’s shit you’re liable. No half way decent mechanic is going to install a part they have seen fail. That would be retarded.

 

[Scumbag]

And If your mechanic can’t tell you what a “known good part is”. He is as stupid as you are and y’all make a great team.

 

[DAK6R]

Well technically…we all have cancer cells in our body but your lifestyle really does dictate whether you are diagnosed with any elevated cancer…just sayin…!!
I did research on filters and came to the conclusion that the oem/stock filter is the best way to go…and they aren’t even that expensive…oil same did some research and I decided to run maxima oil…the semi synthetic for the first change and I have the full synthetic sitting in on the shelf…I had experience with maxima when I rode jet skis and believe in their products…to me the price is more than reasonable and just like fuel don’t worry about the little increase for better product…worth it for me..!!

 

[Rich T]

Well, I've heard enough folks I respect bang OEM into my head -- I'm switching from HiFlo back to OEM on my next changes... I don't need to be the guy who learns for himself!

 

[Rich T]

So here's a question... What OEM filter exactly do folks use? My N400 says 16097-0552 but ZX-6R says 16097-0008!

Is there a difference in country of origin or something? (HiFlo says they use the same filter!)

PS from what I can tell:

-0004 -- made in Japan, discontinued :-(
-0008 -- made in China
-0552 -- made in Thailand (and fitted for bikes made there, like N400)

 

[BenjamminAb]

16097-0008 is the superseded part number so they are for all practical purposes one and the same.

 

[riverszzr]

Your logic is pretty flawed here. Because some people have had cancer we all are going to have it... right. Any good mechanic will tell you there's no such thing as a known good part, even oem have failures brand new, hence recalls and libraries worth of bulletins. You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a powersports dealer/shop that doesn't have at least one k&n on their shelves.

Would you rather than the teenager without cancer professing he therefore will never get cancer I used something like.........

the teenager who has never crashed therefore he states he will never crash

Same fucking loser idiot illogical logic of stupid people know matter how you slide it........

Arguing otherwise is just fucking DUMB!


and I have never seen any oem filter fail on any Japanese motorcycle ever in 50+ years, yet aftermarket filters....... I have seen some not even make it through warming up the engine and they were leaking

I have zero K&N oil filters on my shelves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZERO....haven't had any on the shelves in decades and I am a motorcycle shop.......... So that blows your argument out of the water right there, and I don't see them at any dealerships either!!

 

[riverszzr]

So here's a question... What OEM filter exactly do folks use? My N400 says 16097-0552 but ZX-6R says 16097-0008!

Is there a difference in country of origin or something? (HiFlo says they use the same filter!)

Some are Thialand, some are still Japan but the 0008 are fucking china.............

I do not have an 0552 sitting on the shelf to see where it hails from......... but I would bet Thialand or China

 

[BenjamminAb]

Youre still using the same metaphor so your logic is still flawed lol. I saw one fail or someone told me about one that failed so they're all going to fail? I don't disagree oem is the safest and most reputable supplier for parts but if someone only has access to k&n or by preference like OP then whats the issue? There are millions of k&n products on all kinds of vehicles at this very moment, so are all of those customers experiences counted as worthless? Sling all the negativity you want though, hopefully you don't treat your customers that way!

 

[Scumbag]

Youre still using the same metaphor so your logic is still flawed lol. I saw one fail or someone told me about one that failed so they're all going to fail? I don't disagree oem is the safest and most reputable supplier for parts but if someone only has access to k&n or by preference like OP then whats the issue? There are millions of k&n products on all kinds of vehicles at this very moment, so are all of those customers experiences counted as worthless? Sling all the negativity you want though, hopefully you don't treat your customers that way!

Are you really this stupid or are you trolling?

 

[NOVA_FIRE]

UPDATE
Before I decided to take it to the dealership, I did as you guys suggested. I confirmed that the O ring on the K&N filter failed. I got an OEM Kawasaki filter and replaced it, drained the little bit left of old oil, and filled it back up with new Motul oil. The engine is running well now, with no more leaking and the oil pressure is good. I got a new tire already, I just have to get it installed so I will be taking the wheel off to get that done. The rear brake looked fine upon inspection. I also cleaned the bike up which took forever but now there is no more oil anywhere and she looks brand new. I'll make sure to let everyone that I know who uses K&N oil filters to switch them out ASAP. Thanks for all the help guys!

 

[NOVA_FIRE]

Here’s the old filter.

 

[Rich T]

Thanks for the update!!! I ordered some OEM -0008 and -0552 filters -- I'll post pictures of any differences I can see when they arrive!

 

[Scumbag]

UPDATE
Before I decided to take it to the dealership, I did as you guys suggested. I confirmed that the O ring on the K&N filter failed. I got an OEM Kawasaki filter and replaced it, drained the little bit left of old oil, and filled it back up with new Motul oil. The engine is running well now, with no more leaking and the oil pressure is good. I got a new tire already, I just have to get it installed so I will be taking the wheel off to get that done. The rear brake looked fine upon inspection. I also cleaned the bike up which took forever but now there is no more oil anywhere and she looks brand new. I'll make sure to let everyone that I know who uses K&N oil filters to switch them out ASAP. Thanks for all the help guys!

Awesome. But save your breath man. I have screamed this to people till I’m blue in the face and they say exactly what the moron above says

“But thousands of people use them and they have zero issues”. And for what it’s worth the K&n air filters are garbage also. Just this last winter I bought my son that new zx6 and his buddy bought a slightly older one. I took them to Florida to have some good riding weather and before we left his buddy “serviced” the one he just got We rode in Florida for one month. When we got back I told them. Let’s take a night and re service these bikes back up. Well my bike had a sprint race filter. Zero sand past (and they’re also not great). My sons bike was stock. Zero sand past the filter . His buddy’s with the K&n. (Properly oiled). The (clean) side of the filter was full of sand. And by full I’m not exaggerating. You couldn’t tell what side faced the air flow and what side wasn’t . Ran my fingers in the velocity tubes and obviously very sandy


I don’t typically trust race filters in normal riding conditions. People usually just never clean or check em and they just are not made for daily use. But sprint and bcm I have had good luck with. But I also clean and oil often. I have seen oem filters look completely clogged up and have zero pass by. So whatever my advice is worth. If you are not trying to squeeze every drop of power out of your bike. Stick with oem air filters as well. But always go oem for oil filters


By design an oil filter is a very simple thing. The issue is quality control. And for whatever reason K&n has awful quality control. And regardless of who the manufacturer is. If the quality control is shit. Then that means there is going to be failures in the field. Not if. But when..


Like the old man always Said. Education is expensive. So fortunately you got educated pretty damn cheap compared to what it could of cost you. Glad your bikes fine.

 

[Brader]

UPDATE
Before I decided to take it to the dealership, I did as you guys suggested. I confirmed that the O ring on the K&N filter failed. I got an OEM Kawasaki filter and replaced it, drained the little bit left of old oil, and filled it back up with new Motul oil. The engine is running well now, with no more leaking and the oil pressure is good. I got a new tire already, I just have to get it installed so I will be taking the wheel off to get that done. The rear brake looked fine upon inspection. I also cleaned the bike up which took forever but now there is no more oil anywhere and she looks brand new. I'll make sure to let everyone that I know who uses K&N oil filters to switch them out ASAP. Thanks for all the help guys!

Perfect, you have said what everyone here wanted to hear, I hope your lesson helps others who read here to learn it and not make the same mistake.
You were lucky.....others may not have the same.
Let's ride and enjoy that beautiful ZX6R

 

[PhotoAl]

That is like a teenager saying...........

I have never had cancer so I will never have cancer.............just fucking stupid!!!!!!!!!!!

I quit using K&N filters years ago but had cancer this year.

K&N air filters maybe let more air thru but let other stuff thru. Had one on my 1991 BMW 318iS back in the mid 90s. Pulled it off to clean and re-oil and noticed a film of fine oily dirt in the intake downstream of the filter. Tossed it in the trash and never used a K&N air filter again. Used to use their oil filters back when they were well made but they shifted manufacture to China and made them chaper I quit using them - probably over a decade ago. They were too slow to respond to the quality issues a number of years ago. Since then it has been OEM for all my filters. Not the cheapest but have had no problems.