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#1 ·
New member here. 2016 zx6r

I know that they come equipped with a slipper clutch, but are there any auto blippers available for our bikes?

I'm comfortable blipping on downshifts, but I'd like to focus more on my lines and body positioning than anything else.
 
#3 ·
Bit late because i was busy doing my research.

Turns out there is a solution for conventional cable operated throttles , made by DBS. I've been in contact with them and they've even shared a vid of the blipper in action. No idea how to post a vid, but you can youtube it if you're interested : matteo ciprietti tests pro shift DBS on zx6-RR
 
#6 · (Edited)
Straight from DBS it's about $1,250. Ordering one today. Don't order from Ebay as Proshift themselves will set it up specifically for your bike before shipping it off.

Copying some of the emails we exchanged here:

Thank you for your enquiry, we make a stand-alone bespoke DBS™ (Downshift Blipping System) for the ZX6-R as you have identified your bike has Conventional Cable Operated Throttles so we make a replacement “idle screw” on a ferrule that is joined to our Remote Cable Blipper which is the same as I use on my TT race bike this is adjustable for travel however you should find the factory setting fine.

The Pro-Shift DBS™ is completely stand-alone so it does not matter what ECU you use this will be unaffected by our blipper, I have attached a document that explains the DBS™ in a little more detail so please read through it and I will be happy to answer any questions that you might have.

Further to that I thought that you might like to see and hear the DBS™ in action so click on the link below to view

Clip / Pro-Shift DBS™ (Downshift Blipping System) on WSS Kawasaki ZX6-RR at Misano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuBX0wHADBA

The Pro-Shift ZX6-R DBS™ is £999GBP
We will set the DBS™ up for you before shipping I would doubt it needs any adjustment for “on time” & throttle opening as we have done many ZX6-R’s the nature of our DBS™ is that it scales the blips naturally because at higher RPM the inlet mixture is travelling faster (more blip) and the opposite at low RPM (less blip) so I do not feel you will need to adjust it for street and track use.

And here's a copy fo the document they attached:

The Pro-Shift DBS™ Downshift Blipping
System
Pro-Shift Superbike DBS™
Downshift Blipping System

Designed for Superbikes, Supersport & Supertourers
Uniquely available for DBW or Cable Throttles

Developed for the Isle of Man TT, the Pro-Shift DBS™ is designed to provide super-fast
seamless clutchless downshifts, this unique system is equally capable on the latest
Superbikes with DBW (Drive By Wire) throttles or more conventional Cable operated
throttles as we manufacture blipping solutions for both. The DBS™ main features are;
 Incorporating a fully adjustable Proximity Sensing “Magic Eye” specifically
designed to “see” gearlever movement which then triggers the DBS™ GCU
(Gearshift Control Unit) to provide the downshift throttle blips. The whole ethos of this
revolutionary operating method is to provide No Gearbox Load on downshifts, this in
turn gives far faster more accurate Seamless Clutchless Downshifts whilst avoiding
unnecessary gearbox damage, this is why we will not use the common load cells
 DBS™ GCU (Gearshift Control Unit) features fully adjustable blipper “on times”
allowing you to “tune” the system to your own personal riding style
 All Pro-Shift DBS™ Electronic & Electro-Mechanical Remote Cable Blippers are
adjustable for throttle opening percentages
 Bespoke DBS™ Electronic Throttle Blipper Drive Modules for DBW (Drive By
Wire) throttles, we manufacture bike specific fully adjustable super-fast electronic
“blips” again giving the desired Seamless Clutchless Downshifts.
Available for 2 Channel & 4 Channel throttle configurations
 DBS™ for Conventional Cable Operated Throttles, these require our Patent
Pending Remote Cable Blipper which includes idle screw replacement ferrule
ideally suited to Superbikes with limited space the “RCB” makes installation quick &
simple. This lightweight ultra-fast acting downshift throttle blipper uses our in house
designed blipper solenoid which provides ultra-fast clutchless downshifts, typical “on
times” of around 50mS providing multiple Seamless Clutchless Downshifts
ď‚· Fully Stand-Alone 12 Volt Operation works with any ECU or fueling system,
absolutely no requirement to power the throttle blipper externally via ECU or similar
 
#10 ·
If Moto2 guys can use the clutch to downshift I guess I will save my money too lol.

Looks really cool but I wouldn't spend that much on it.
 
#11 ·
It's not just about being faster for me, although that's def a thing. The way i see it, there are several other advantages. A perfect blip settles the bike, which is not only faster, but safer as well. Not having to use the clutch is pretty awesome tbh. Combined with a QS and you have clutchless up and downshifting.

Yeah it's expensive, but that's how supply and demand works. They have no competitors, and this really isn't their bread and butter anyway. They make even more sophisticated stuff from what i've seen
 
#15 ·
Auto-blippers are cool. I don't think they're useful enough to make them worth the money unless they come stock on the bike, but they are pretty damn cool. I've only ever ridden one bike that had auto-blipper, and it was a stock Ducati 1299S when those came out. It was nice to have, but to be honest it wasn't as smooth as I thought it'd be. I was much smoother on my downshifts when using the clutch, plus the clutch gives you more control whereas the auto-blipper is what it is. It might be smooth at certain speeds in certain gears, but not all. I think part of that is because of the transmission. I'm guessing MotoGP bikes are pretty damn smooth cuz they have seamless transmissions, so you can bang down 4-5 gears, at the end of a long straight going into a really slow turn, in a matter of a few seconds. But with production bikes if you do that with an auto-blipper it's not gonna be that smooth.
 
#19 ·
I downshift with no throttle blip and it’s completely fine due to the slipper, and for upshifts I have woolich. This is pretty cool though but that’s so pricey. I’d also rather get carbon fiber or magnesium wheels lol.
 
#21 ·
I just bought one of these autoblippers from Proshift. I felt like I needed to spend my stimmy money before it floated away. Its a standalone unit. Theres a cable that replaces your idle adjustment screw and a solenoid on the other end that pushes on the throttle pulley. A hall effect sensor on the gear shift shaft tells the computer where the lever is at all times. Its a standalone unit with no software to set it up. Hook it up to switched power and go. From what I understood Dave (one of the engineers) was telling me, there is an adjustment screw on the solenoid that regulates the speed of the throttle opening to get the shifts to time correctly. Other than that there is no other adjustments. I’ll be sticking it on my 2016 and it looks like I’ll only have to make a small modification to the front sprocket cover to get the hall effect sensor to fit. Fingers crossed it doesn’t suck.


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#22 ·
I've been using this set-up on my 2019 bike. It's does work very well however there are times when I don't like to use it.

The new bike has to much engine braking to just slam 2nd gear downshifts when on fast entries. If you experience that you'll need to dial that out with tuning or just manually release the clutch lever slowly.
 
#28 ·
I honestly would have bought all used 2020'ish parts & converted your bike to Throttle-by-Wire like the throttle bodies, throttle, ECU & wiring and then just flashed it with FTECU & use their QS'er with auto-blipper or if you wanted to stay OEM, buy the Kawasaki QS Kit.

Probably would've cost about the same, but less parts, more tunability, more precise and much smoother
 
#37 ·
I can confirm its good for about 0.6 off my personal best which was good enough to win my first expert race.

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Being able to focus 100% on braking makes it so much easier to shave time on corner entry. I honestly don’t even feel like I’m riding that hard. Worth the money.


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#49 ·
Was looking for something else and stumbled on this thread.
I also have this system on my bike, I tied it to an existing fuse in the wiring harness, there is always power to the device, so I use a On/off switch to cut the power as not to drain the battery when the bike is parked.
I also mounted the solenoid underneath the tail, wanted the straightest path possible for the cable to the throttle bodies.

To the earlier poster that mentioned too much engine braking, in order to reduce that, I have the idle raised a bit, helps with on/off throttle as well.
 
#51 ·
Assuming this is for a track/race bike, you should be able to tie into the switched hot leading to the brake light switch on either of the master cylinders