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post #1 of 14 Old 02-25-2009, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
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Alternatives to Power Commander...

Has anyone noticed that Power commander is getting increasingly expensive. I Guess their name is big enough that they don't have to worry about sales..... After all, what ELSE will the people buy?? When any of us think of "fuel Management", Power Commander is the first thing that comes to mind.

I have been reading a bit about the other options, and think I am liking the Techlusion unit.

Has anyone had any first-hand experience with Techlusion (Or any other systems!!)? If so, tell us how you thought they worked.

Techlusion is priced considerably less than Power Commander, but appears to have all the same functioning...

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its priced $60 less then PCIII (without shipping costs) and BTW it looks like crap i rather pay $60 more and go with a reputable brand then with one out the box!!!
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its priced $60 less then PCIII (without shipping costs) and BTW it looks like crap i rather pay $60 more and go with a reputable brand then with one out the box!!!
+1 I'll stick with a known brand.
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Same here, trusted brand.
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Sticking with a known brand... That's how PC computers ended up selling more units than Mac computers, even though Mac is a superior product. don't be a sheep.

Did any Dynojet supporters know that the guy who designed the techlusion is in fact the original founder of DYNOJET? I think his credentials are up to date.

Here's a link to some info for the ZX6r. It doesn't require a re-mapping, etc. This product really looks good. Hopefully people will read about it before abandoning it.

I am still waiting for the reviews from people that have actually used it, instead of shutting it down without knowing anything about it...
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I've never heard of them, and reading thru that link doesn't convince me it's as good as a power commander, it just doesn't come of as being as accurate as a pc, u just just turn dials on the unnit to change the parameters, seems a bit hit and miss to me wherea with a pc they can pull the map up on a laptop andchange the fuelling where and as it is needed. It's still gonna gonna need a dyno to set it up, so not something u can really do in ur garage. Just my opinion


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Yoshi do one, called the Yoshimura EMS. I don't know much about it because all I see round these parts are PCIII.. May be worth a look?

http://www.exoticsportbike.com/yoshimura_ems.htm
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Sounds like you work for them.

There is also the Two Brothers Juice Box as a PCIII alternative. There is a reason when majority of motorcyclists think of "fuel managament" they first think of Power Commander. It's a reputable brand that make quality products that they stand behind.

Go ahead and be the black sheep, let us know how that works out for you.
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Haha. I kinda feel like I DO work for them!!! :S

All I wanted was to hear from people who actually tried the unit. I don't think ppl who have never used (Or even heard of the product) should weigh in with their negatives..

I am a member on a local site, and there are a few guys running the unit. They say it's a solid unit, with notceable smoothning out of the bike. But there are alot of people that are shy of it because it's new, and new sometimes scares people!

Maybe it's time to stray from the flock.. Bahhhh
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maybe it is theres nothing wrong with that

when i put a pair of turbos on my car i was ridaculed for using socalled inferiour jjr turbos insted of the normal garret so dont be scared of what others think the only way youll know is if you do it your self

oh and i dont think anyone was being negative they were just voiceing there opinion

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[QUOTE=Markchouinar;79150]Sticking with a known brand... That's how PC computers ended up selling more units than Mac computers, even though Mac is a superior product. don't be a sheep.QUOTE]


well said.. stray from the flock for once..

im quite interested in this product, powercommanders are quite spendy, same with juice boxes and the bazzaz z-afm...

we'll see how the money situation looks after bills are done and exhaust is ordered, i might check one of these TFi's

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I have included a cut/paste. This sums up my thoughts before I even went to the site.

Anyways, I like my Carb'd bikes because no one has offered a tuning device that works for the REAL rider. I want drivability, not JUST high horsepower numbers.

The fact that this is dial tuned is a plus for anyone that wants to have impressive throttle response. And in all reality, it's the crisp throttle and increase in mid-range that you think is "horsepower", generally speaking, jet kits and programmers aren't designed for horsepower but rather to increase the throttle response, mid-range and drivability characteristics, and allow for intake and exhaust changes.

So, YES, the Powercommander is a superior tuning product, but how many of you are really gonna use it to it's FULL, let me say that again, FULL potential? If you are ALWAYS gonna ride above 12k RPM then cool, but if you ride stop and go traffic and cruise the streets, then the TFI "may" be a great new option to the tuning world.

"The TFI box (that stands for Techlusion Fuel Injection) is made by the guy that founded DYNOJET. Besides the obvious, the price, the TFI works really well on your real world road bikes, whereas Power Commanders were designed for race bikes which could be used on road bikes, this TFI box is designed for road bikes. This means that you are going to get a much more defined and accurate set up for real world riding. And with a working accelerator pump circuit, reacts like a finely tuned carburetor."

It doesn't have to be the right tool; Just one that works.
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+1

very well said, like i said ill try to guinea pig it once i come up with some cash, i dont intend on ever really tracking this bike so a powercommander, like he said, wont get used to its full potential plus its 300 bucks i can spend on streetable accessories, e.g. a softer effin seat, although some day i plan on owning a track bike then a powercommander full system, all that jazz will be worth while

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