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post #1 of 42 Old 10-03-2014, 07:31 PM Thread Starter
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Moving plate undertail cause of camera tickets...anybody else

So New York just got lots of speeding cameras 150 and has red light cameras already... Which I found out a bunch of speeding cameras are on one of my work routes.... Not sure if I got some the other day ... So end result gave me a reason to Tidy up my tail section ... I'm eliminating the back fender and putting an under tail and maybe a rear tire hugger ... Its 2000 zx6r

Any one have problem with plate under tail?

What undertail are you guys using? I'm thinking bout bestem .... Did you lose alot trunk space

Any other good place to put plate?

Anyone with 00-02 zx6r or 600 have pics of there tail section to give me some ideas of what there's look like
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post #2 of 42 Old 10-04-2014, 07:40 PM
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Where in Brooklyn. I know somewhere near ocean parkway they have them. Whats your work route.
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Just put it under the tail...deep in there. And bend it down slightly so cameras cant see it.

Like so...



If a cop pulls u over just tell them u prolly went over a big bump and the tire hit the plate and caused it to bend. Then proceed to bend it back and apologize to the cop
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Mine is tucked way the fuck under the tail. I've not had any problems with cops. Min is just two pieces of metal hanging from the pillion peg mount holes.

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So New York just got lots of speeding cameras 150 and has red light cameras already... Which I found out a bunch of speeding cameras are on one of my work routes.... Not sure if I got some the other day ... So end result gave me a reason to Tidy up my tail section ... I'm eliminating the back fender and putting an under tail and maybe a rear tire hugger ... Its 2000 zx6r

Any one have problem with plate under tail?

What undertail are you guys using? I'm thinking bout bestem .... Did you lose alot trunk space

Any other good place to put plate?

Anyone with 00-02 zx6r or 600 have pics of there tail section to give me some ideas of what there's look like
Call me delusional..... why not try going the speed limit?

Much easier on the pocketbook all the way around. Less hassles, less wear and tear, less risk..... Maybe you'll figure that out, if you survive long enough.
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It is hard for me to go the speed limit when I am in traffic because I hate being behind or next to cars. So I am constantly having to speed up to go around them. Especially on the highway.

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It is hard for me to go the speed limit when I am in traffic because I hate being behind or next to cars. So I am constantly having to speed up to go around them. Especially on the highway.
I agree.... I am constantly adjusting my position in traffic by way of the throttle. The trick is to do so when you can do it without getting extreme about it. And understand that you are in fact speeding and can take a ticket for doing so.

Just because you (we) can and do, does not make it legal. Pick your situation carefully. If you are in unknown territory, BEHAVE. If you are riding by your self with no covering traffic -- behave. Late at night, early in the morning when the LEOs are bored? BEHAVE.
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Call me delusional..... why not try going the speed limit?

Much easier on the pocketbook all the way around. Less hassles, less wear and tear, less risk..... Maybe you'll figure that out, if you survive long enough.
Because 1 mph over is still technically illegal. My throttle control is not that good.

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Because 1 mph over is still technically illegal. My throttle control is not that good.

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I constantly rely on the 5 MPH 'cushion' it is customary for US LEOs to work with -- and typically it's greater for motorcycles. As long as you don't act like an a$$hat, that is. Covering 36 miles one way to work, I can easily get there at least a few minutes quicker, riding the bike.

I know where the speed traps are, on my given route. I respect them all, every ride. Even though they are populated 1/10 or so of the time.

Since I don't have that knowledge when I ride out of my local area, I tend to ride more conservatively in those situations. On the freeway, I am willing to do roughly 10 MPH over the flow of traffic, as long as there is traffic to flow through. Once that cover goes away, I obey the posted limit.
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So New York just got lots of speeding cameras 150 and has red light cameras already... Which I found out a bunch of speeding cameras are on one of my work routes.... Not sure if I got some the other day ... So end result gave me a reason to Tidy up my tail section ... I'm eliminating the back fender and putting an under tail and maybe a rear tire hugger ... Its 2000 zx6r

Any one have problem with plate under tail?

What undertail are you guys using? I'm thinking bout bestem .... Did you lose alot trunk space

Any other good place to put plate?

Anyone with 00-02 zx6r or 600 have pics of there tail section to give me some ideas of what there's look like

my big ass plate,





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I constantly rely on the 5 MPH 'cushion' it is customary for US LEOs to work with -- and typically it's greater for motorcycles. As long as you don't act like an a$$hat, that is. Covering 36 miles one way to work, I can easily get there at least a few minutes quicker, riding the bike.

I know where the speed traps are, on my given route. I respect them all, every ride. Even though they are populated 1/10 or so of the time.

Since I don't have that knowledge when I ride out of my local area, I tend to ride more conservatively in those situations. On the freeway, I am willing to do roughly 10 MPH over the flow of traffic, as long as there is traffic to flow through. Once that cover goes away, I obey the posted limit.
I agree with you fully. Just saying the speed cameras are put there to evenly apply the "law". They had one camera dish out 77,000$ in tickets in one day, and the system is designed such that it is basically impossible to beat a ticket.

A single New York City speed camera made more than $77,000 from ticketing motorists in one day - The Washington Post


Even trying to behave, a 1/2 second blip of the throttle can have you in prime ticketing territory.

All that said, I'm usually looking at what is going on around me and not the speedo... I feel I would be less safe if I were staring at the speedo every second or so.

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Mine is tucked under the tail like Scorpi0's. I can confirm with 100% accuracy, that the cameras here in Texas can't pick up the plate. I constantly run the toll booths here and call every month or so to "pay" but there is never any record of my plate in their system.
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I agree with you fully. Just saying the speed cameras are put there to evenly apply the "law". They had one camera dish out 77,000$ in tickets in one day, and the system is designed such that it is basically impossible to beat a ticket.

A single New York City speed camera made more than $77,000 from ticketing motorists in one day - The Washington Post


Even trying to behave, a 1/2 second blip of the throttle can have you in prime ticketing territory.

All that said, I'm usually looking at what is going on around me and not the speedo... I feel I would be less safe if I were staring at the speedo every second or so.

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Interesting article about the cameras in NYC. The big push in the PNW was for traffic light enforcement via cameras/automatic citation. Everywhere they put one up, the first month or two they made big money -- then, within a few more weeks, they became negative income.

A fixed camera, in a known location, does not make money as soon as the locals know where it is. The learning curve is pretty steep.

I have to think the same is true of speed cameras...... if you know it's there and you choose to speed anyway -- pretty much screams that you are riding like an [email protected] Using a device to make your license plate unreadable in that situation just shows that you are socially putting up your middle finger to the whole process.

While I generally find that humorous; on a personal level it just means you are drawing attention to yourself, and will be much more likely to have multiple infractions levied against you if you are pulled over by a real, live, officer.

If you want to run a loud exhaust, too bright headlights, LED underglow, and then want to add in a 'hidden' LP? And speeding to boot?
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I would invest in an Escort radar detector with Escort Live such as the Passport Max, 9500IX & the 8500 X50 (models after 2008.) It's updated with red light cameras, speed cameras, speed traps, etc... Or you can just purchase the Escort Live app without the radar detector and it just pops up the alerts on your phone. I currently have a RAM Mount for my phone. It's mounted on my clutch side by removing the clamp bolts for the clutch on the clip on. It's pretty snazzy.

Or you could always get one of those motorized flip plate kits. Press of a button and it flips up so you can't see your plate. I will be getting one once I move back to Dallas as they are so many toll roads there now, you can't get anywhere without getting on a toll road now. They were suppose to remove the tolls on the highways once they recouped their money for building the highways, but they already made their money back on them several years ago and they removed the toll booths and put in the automated toll tag readers and cameras not too long after they were out of the red and into the black on cost.

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Here's my plate. Haven't had one issue with any popos here in Tx. The only thing my dad (as an officer) has said is the night time. As long as it's properly illuminated, then you're fine. Just don't make it blatant that you're trying to hide it, for obvious reasons. I have two bolt leds that light that sob up at night, but from top (aka camera view) that shit can't be seen 👍
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