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post #16 of 54 Old 03-13-2019, 08:20 AM
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First bought a GPR, it needed to be reworked as it was leaking and was too stiff. It mounts very close to the key so depending on the key, the key may need to be trimmed. Mine didn't but was very close. Sold it at a loss (buyer was aware of issues) and bought an Ohlins from someone on this forum. It was expensive but the quality was first class - as I expected. Mostly titanium parts and everything was very light. I just ride street and bought it to prevent the unexpected tank slapper that could put me down. Some things I'll cut corners on but tires and brakes and important suspension parts are thinks that really need to work well. If it doesn't run that is a problem but not like brakes or tires not working. Know a lot of folks are on a tight budget, will be interesting to see how the Bitubo works out.
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Except when that Chinese crap either starts leaking in a few months or just needs the normal rebuild youíre screwed and have to buy another. While with the ohlins a simple rebuild and itís like brand new again. Why waste your money on literal trash? Let alone for something as vital as a supersport motorcycle, at least for me I donít want to cut corners on a small unprotected piece of metal flying me at 150 mph lol. But then again, someone has to keep the CA motorcyclist down Instagram page going... lol

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Except you dont know if its crap do you? And where would we be without chinese manufactured goods?

I'll find out soon enough i guess!
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Bitubo is Italian btw...

There are a lot of chinese replicas of various types of steering dampers on ebay for really cheap. I would certainly stay away from those. Mainly cuz I had one lol My CBR500 came with a chinese replica of a Scott steering damper. My ZX6R had a real authentic Scott damper. They looked almost the same, but the difference in how they worked was night and day. The real one actually did its job well and everything worked on it. The chinese one was way softer on the damping, and the adjustment knob did jack shit. You could turn that thing in either direction and there was barely any difference in feel lol
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Bitubo is Italian btw...

There are a lot of chinese replicas of various types of steering dampers on ebay for really cheap. I would certainly stay away from those. Mainly cuz I had one lol My CBR500 came with a chinese replica of a Scott steering damper. My ZX6R had a real authentic Scott damper. They looked almost the same, but the difference in how they worked was night and day. The real one actually did its job well and everything worked on it. The chinese one was way softer on the damping, and the adjustment knob did jack shit. You could turn that thing in either direction and there was barely any difference in feel lol
Would the chinese damper still be better than no damper? Serious question lol
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Would the chinese damper still be better than no damper? Serious question lol
Tough to say. On one hand I would say yes because if nothing else it's a good mental boost, just knowing that it's there lol But on the other hand, I currently don't have one on my ninja 400 and don't feel the need to have one.

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Would the chinese damper still be better than no damper? Serious question lol
If I am honest, I am not overly convinced the bike needs a damper. I have had a couple of very mild shakes but nothing that is even near a slapper. On the road, i would think its definitely not needed. My zx10r and R1 on the other hand.....

I would say it is better than nothing, but if I thought I NEEDED one I would have bought a well known name. For me, i bought it for the fitting kit only. I will however run it for a couple of track days and see how it performs. Then the intention is to replace the damper tube or remove it.

For the £40 outlay, it is worth the experiment.
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From my experience it is needed else I wouldn't have bothered buying one, the Chinese work great if you know what you're doing, my friend actually died (R.I.P) from using Chinese damper (he didn't set it right I believe which caused his steering to lock).

On another subject, got my friend part from 09 to put it on my bike (see pictures of issues)

The zx10r triplet bracket is much longer than the actual zx6r bracket which makes the damper sit in an angle (not sure how important that is, but there is clearance when I turn the steering to left and right).

The other picture is how the zx10r 2010 bracket sits (much closer to the tank)

And the last picture is how the steering damper should sit correct (taken from zx6r Facebook group)
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(not sure how important that is, but there is clearance when I turn the steering to left and right).
I would think the main thing is that the damper doesnt run out of stroke.

Related would be that the lever arm/angle has changed and so the effort/resistance has changed. But, the damper has adjustment, so can compensate.

Looks like you need a wee test ride!
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I guess youíre an idiot if you trust your life to a $50 Chinese damper.
go on, guess again.....just once.
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(not sure how important that is, but there is clearance when I turn the steering to left and right).
I would think the main thing is that the damper doesnt run out of stroke.

Related would be that the lever arm/angle has changed and so the effort/resistance has changed. But, the damper has adjustment, so can compensate.

Looks like you need a wee test ride!


So the zx6r 2009 bracket arrived and this is what it looks like (don't mind the bolts)

First picture is when the steering is straight, second is the steering all the way to the right, honestly? It works, just I want to make sure that it ok to mount it this way...

I'll try to figure the strains when the damper isn't vertical and what it can cause.
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Im afraid that would upset my OCD and i'd have to remove it! Why couldn't they have made the bracket such that it is so much closer to the top yoke?
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Im afraid that would upset my OCD and i'd have to remove it! Why couldn't they have made the bracket such that it is so much closer to the top yoke?
Your OCD will be fine.
The original bracket sits much closer to the top yoke but it cost 110$ and another 55$ to my country (damn import tax)
This bracket is a zx10r 2010 bracket which works good but not so much...

Checked with few engineers and techs saying that since the whole damper is spinning when moving there shouldn't be a problem installing it this way.

I'm still trying to get a cleaner look with this setup.
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Why is the damper moving? Itís supposed to stay still.... that seems all wrong.

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