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So basically I have an opportunity to to buy a 07 zx6r the catch is it has a blown motor, we have the guy wanted 2100$ for the bike as is but we met at 1600$. I plan on swapping a new engine in and maybe rebuildling the one in there just to sell or keep for something else. I'm a machinist and my boss is my grandfather so i can handle some light fabrication work at the cost of only my time, so drilling some holes and adding a bracket or two isn't an issue but I don't want to touch the frame itself.

My two questions are is 1600$ worth the bike that is in need of a new engine? the original will be rebuilt or parted out but the plan is a new engine for the bike either way.

Also what would be the best year engine? Reliability first performance second, if they're all reliable then performance first

This will be my first street bike but I've ridden dirtbikes for a long time and have a 2016 KTM 300 XC right now as well.

Thank you guys very much for your time and experience and God bless those who receive it.

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I bought my 07 for 2100 dollars and it needed a chain and tires.. so I'd say no.

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I second the NO...my buddy bought his for $2000 with a running engine.


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A) - you cannot buy a NEW engine for your 07....it would be a used engine, which you should plan to spend time and money on yourself to make sure it is in top shape and properly maintained
B) - There are too many variables with your question as to "worth"........ what else does it need, what condition is it in, how many miles on it, clean title- how many owners, what aftermarket stuff is on it (suspension, rearsets, clip ons, 1/4 turn throttle, brembo master, steering damper etc...) and more
C) - Did you look around your area to see what other ones are selling for
D) - define blown up......... that current engine may well not be salvageable for any reasonable cost, cranks are expensive, rods are expensive, heads are expensive........ all depends what is wrong with it, and just cuz one is a machinist does not mean one can make or repair any of the aforementioned parts

But........ I personally would not spend $1600 on a bike with a blown engine unless I already had a good engine to put in and it had plenty of other value........ Well maybe if one was looking to part it all out, it may then be worth it- but what about your time investment.....what do you get for your hours of advertising, communications, cleaning and packaging etc.... I bet less than minimum wage

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I bought my 07 for 2100 dollars and it needed a chain and tires.. so I'd say no.
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I second the NO...my buddy bought his for $2000 with a running engine.
Ok fair enough, what do you guys think i should offer? Because frankly I'm set on this bike, similar ones are going for 4000-5000$ in Western Massachusetts, being able to put in a low mileage engine will give me peace of mind and everything I found below 3k has 15k+ miles say what you want but you can't judge the honesty of a person via text and I just want to low miles, personal preference, I can't be the only one. I would rather buy a bike that I know needs work, do it right and come out a couple hundred on top vs a bike that runs but is high mileage and undisclosed issues start popping up as a surprise on your first ride.
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A) - you cannot buy a NEW engine for your 07....it would be a used engine, which you should plan to spend time and money on yourself to make sure it is in top shape and properly maintained
B) - There are too many variables with your question as to "worth"........ what else does it need, what condition is it in, how many miles on it, clean title- how many owners, what aftermarket stuff is on it (suspension, rearsets, clip ons, 1/4 turn throttle, brembo master, steering damper etc...) and more
C) - Did you look around your area to see what other ones are selling for
D) - define blown up......... that current engine may well not be salvageable for any reasonable cost, cranks are expensive, rods are expensive, heads are expensive........ all depends what is wrong with it, and just cuz one is a machinist does not mean one can make or repair any of the aforementioned parts

But........ I personally would not spend $1600 on a bike with a blown engine unless I already had a good engine to put in and it had plenty of other value........ Well maybe if one was looking to part it all out, it may then be worth it- but what about your time investment.....what do you get for your hours of advertising, communications, cleaning and packaging etc.... I bet less than minimum wage
Firstly it has a clean title, he says it has alot of extras but regardless I don't believe modifications add value regardless of how good they are, I know most won't agree because I see ppl selling their 5 year old 300hp turbo liter bikes with a bottle for 10k as if that's a good thing and not proof of a clapped engine. And yes of course the engine won't be brand new but low milage >5k from either a reputable eBay seller or a salvage bike and yes the bikes in my area are going for 4-6k so at the very top end of the scale engines seem to be 2.5k for a newer year/lower mileage and I'm rounding up generously, as for being a machinist I do anything you would need a machine shop to do, somethings are better off replaced of course. But my biggest reason behind this bike is I want to ride, I know I'll make something off parts and I'm not rich but I don't count every dollar either, stingy ppl always seem to have holes in their pockets. I don't know, I'm just talking too much at this point but are you just picking up nice 5-10k mileage bikes for around 2k because I search literally every marketolace and 2k won't get you far, unless if your alright to settle with something clapped out.
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Absolutely $2000 won't generally buy you anything really nice this time of year..........

But perhaps the two who bought bikes for 2k and sub 2k will chime in on their experience

locally here in MN
an engine would run about $1000 to the door, spend another $1000+ to freshen it and make sure the valves are adjusted etc, add in another $500 in parts, and then however much to remove old and install........... So your 2500 figure is not far off

But if you are spending 2500 on an engine, and 1600 on the bike, and spending countless hours doing who knows what.......... You are cash out of pocket atleast 4500

Aren't there better bikes out there for that kind of money??

I know locally here there are plenty of good low mileage sportbikes for sub 4500..............

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Absolutely $2000 won't generally buy you anything really nice this time of year..........

But perhaps the two who bought bikes for 2k and sub 2k will chime in on their experience

locally here in MN
an engine would run about $1000 to the door, spend another $1000+ to freshen it and make sure the valves are adjusted etc, add in another $500 in parts, and then however much to remove old and install........... So your 2500 figure is not far off

But if you are spending 2500 on an engine, and 1600 on the bike, and spending countless hours doing who knows what.......... You are cash out of pocket atleast 4500

Aren't there better bikes out there for that kind of money<img src="https://zx6r.com/images/smilies/rock.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Eh?" class="inlineimg" /><img src="https://zx6r.com/images/smilies/rock.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Eh?" class="inlineimg" />??

I know locally here there are plenty of good low mileage sportbikes for sub 4500..............
Absolutely for 4.5k you can get a pretty nice 600 but I think an 07 zx6r with a low mileage 09-12 engine might be on the higher end of pretty nice, but my job is very "lenient" I guess you could say, and I could work on the bike while im here and for me to spread 4.5k over the span of a even just a couple days is easier than to pay up right away. I don't really count the time I spend working for myself &#x1f3fc; maybe I should but honestly I spend alot of time in vain so fixing up a bike so I can enjoy it all summer sounds like nothing but a good deal. I guess our opinions vary a little here but I'm going to buy that bike tomorrow morning and I will try to get him to come down on the price to maybe 1000$ because when buy a bike to fix you should always come out on top vs a bike of the same condition but running, and the bike also has 11,xxx miles on it.
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Does a 09-12 engine swap into an 07 frame?

Need an 09-12 ECU? What about the wiring harness? Lots of questions...
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I'd wait and buy one when people aren't asking crackhead prices..
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I'd wait and buy one when people aren't asking crackhead prices..
You guys were right I might've come out a couple hundred dollars on top but that's not counting the work I would do myself, the headache wouldn't be worth it. I've applied some reasonable thought and decided against it, on the other hand I found an 2006 zx6r with 4k miles for 3500$, not a bad deal I think and everything seems honest aswell, clean bike and basically stock besides flush signals and some sort of clutch mod, I'm probably going to jump on it, can't find anything reasonable for 2k$ at least not in Massachusetts.
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Does a 09-12 engine swap into an 07 frame?

Need an 09-12 ECU? What about the wiring harness? Lots of questions...
Not just bolt right in and certainly would need accompanying parts like the ecu and harness and exhaust and more............

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