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Throttle Sync While Inspecting Valves?

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I am overdue on my valve clearance check so I'm going to get it done before spring. Not sure if the previous owner got the throttle bodies inspected/sync'd. Would you think its a good idea to get this done at the same time as I get my valves inspected? They will already be in that area of the bike, so the labour wont necessarily be too much more. My Mechanic said he will charge $180 for Valve clearance service and if anything needs to be adjusted he will have additional labour charges accordingly.
A couple of my friends have zx6r's and say to ignore the 1st valve clearance because 95% of the time they are all in spec....but I plan on having this bike a while so I want to take care of her.
There have been 2 instances when I've thought bad gas was the culprit that I've posted on the forum:
1. Gas light on for some time, pulled into a parking lot and out of no where my bike was idling around 4500rpm while in neutral, FI light came on (freaked the shit out of me). Turned bike off, started fine, filled with gas, issue went away. Possible Throttle bodies got stuck open?
2. Last ride of the year in November when it was cold out I was cruising to a stop and my bike bogged out on me. Had the gas in it for a month or so.....started back up and didn't stall on me for the rest of the ride home 10 mile ride.
Would these issues lean towards the throttles being slightly out of synch? I may as well get them checked, just thought I'd ask here first.
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Your "friends" giving you advice are idiots!!!!!!!!!! the first valve adjustment is the most critical and they will have moved the most- they are so stupid in fact, theyir heads are up their assholes so far they don't even know how fucking stupid they are!!!!!!!!

Of course get the throttle bodies synchronized
also have the TPS checked and adjusted, and check the other electronic sensors as well........it is called a "tune up" where you need to do the complete list of services and inspections


finally.........$180 plus more if any need adjusting- they will need adjusting, likely more than 10 of them on a first service.........So you may want to get some difinitive $$$$ so it isn't some surprise later
And what kind of shims is he using?
make sure to get the clearance and shim map! (so you can see what they measured as arrived, what shims were in the bike as arrived, what shims as departed and what all clearances are as departed!)
Does he have the correct ools and experience?------his statement that he will do it for $180 plus more if any need adjusting already tells me he is another fucking idiot who should not be working on motorcycles! Doesn't have the experience to see that pretty much every single motorcycle that ever comes in needs a majority of the valves adjusted especially early on! and he may well not even have the correct shims to do the job properly or accurately nor have the correct tools or knowledge/experience in their use to do it correctly............

Gee I already know all the answers to your questions- dump your friends and their "advice" becasue they are too stupid and ignorant and hopefully they never breed, dump that "mechanic" because he either........doesn't have a clue and is a stupid moron too, or.........he is out to screw you with add on costs undisclosed as of now


plugs, air filter, TPS, throttle body sync which may well include needing to clean the adjuster crew tips, BPS check, fuel pressure and flow check, electronic checks of resistance values of stick coils after the tips are thoroughly cleaned and seen to have functioning spring clips, throttle cable lube and adjustments, clutch cable lube and adjustment and so much more that "just" adjusting valves is what it takes to do a real comprehensive tune up service!

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Stupid people say stupid things on the internet, so be wary of who those people are. If you solicit advice on the internet, just keep in mind 99% of what you'll receive is not based on fact or science-and likely atleast 95% of it is based on bullshit and bravado regurgitated from some other schlub who also did not experience any of what they claim and are also full of shit. If you don't like my bluntness- too bad. I am not here to please you, so move along, your approval is not desired nor is it needed. So before opening your pie hole and adding more stupidity, perhaps sit back, listen, absorb and learn something. You know that saying, it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
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Your "friends" giving you advice are idiots!!!!!!!!!! the first valve adjustment is the most critical and they will have moved the most- they are so stupid in fact, theyir heads are up their assholes so far they don't even know how fucking stupid they are!!!!!!!!

Of course get the throttle bodies synchronized
also have the TPS checked and adjusted, and check the other electronic sensors as well........it is called a "tune up" where you need to do the complete list of services and inspections


finally.........$180 plus more if any need adjusting- they will need adjusting, likely more than 10 of them on a first service.........So you may want to get some difinitive $$$$ so it isn't some surprise later
And what kind of shims is he using?
make sure to get the clearance and shim map! (so you can see what they measured as arrived, what shims were in the bike as arrived, what shims as departed and what all clearances are as departed!)
Does he have the correct ools and experience?------his statement that he will do it for $180 plus more if any need adjusting already tells me he is another fucking idiot who should not be working on motorcycles! Doesn't have the experience to see that pretty much every single motorcycle that ever comes in needs a majority of the valves adjusted especially early on! and he may well not even have the correct shims to do the job properly or accurately nor have the correct tools or knowledge/experience in their use to do it correctly............

Gee I already know all the answers to your questions- dump your friends and their "advice" becasue they are too stupid and ignorant and hopefully they never breed, dump that "mechanic" because he either........doesn't have a clue and is a stupid moron too, or.........he is out to screw you with add on costs undisclosed as of now


plugs, air filter, TPS, throttle body sync which may well include needing to clean the adjuster crew tips, BPS check, fuel pressure and flow check, electronic checks of resistance values of stick coils after the tips are thoroughly cleaned and seen to have functioning spring clips, throttle cable lube and adjustments, clutch cable lube and adjustment and so much more that "just" adjusting valves is what it takes to do a real comprehensive tune up service!
Easy there pal lol! In regards to my mechanic, hes been my dads mechanic for the last 20 years and is known pretty well in the Toronto area. You are the first person I've ever heard say that about the valve clearance. Everywhere I've read has said that the valves are usually in spec the first interval, but once again that's just what I've read.
You really could have toned down your response......I only made it halfway through your second paragraph of ranting.
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Easy there pal lol! In regards to my mechanic, hes been my dads mechanic for the last 20 years and is known pretty well in the Toronto area. You are the first person I've ever heard say that about the valve clearance. Everywhere I've read has said that the valves are usually in spec the first interval, but once again that's just what I've read.
You really could have toned down your response......I only made it halfway through your second paragraph of ranting.
Just because someone did the same thing wrong for 20 years doesn't mean they know how to do it correctly.......

I call out stupid and ignorance when it is called for............... THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY CALLED FOR !

Just because you have never heard the truth, doesn't make it any less the truth!!!!!!!!

And if you don't like my bluntness, feel free to ignore me, block me and don't listen and don't expect help in the future when some fucktard dimwit ruins your shit from incompetence, inexperience and ignorance

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Stupid people say stupid things on the internet, so be wary of who those people are. If you solicit advice on the internet, just keep in mind 99% of what you'll receive is not based on fact or science-and likely atleast 95% of it is based on bullshit and bravado regurgitated from some other schlub who also did not experience any of what they claim and are also full of shit. If you don't like my bluntness- too bad. I am not here to please you, so move along, your approval is not desired nor is it needed. So before opening your pie hole and adding more stupidity, perhaps sit back, listen, absorb and learn something. You know that saying, it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
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