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post #1 of 16 Old 09-06-2018, 07:52 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys so instead of wasteing $200 on that little stupid scratch(imma polish it and put a sticker over it) imma add $120 to that and get a power commander does anyone have a video or can write insturctions on how to install a 2018 zx6r? thanks!
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.....so making it go faster will reduce crashing, how?

Save the money, and invest in yourself first.

Training.

Training.

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THEN go fast parts.... But even then, it's better to limit future damage with sliders or cages, so you reduce the cost of horizontal parking....
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Dude, a power commander won't make it run any better or faster with a stock bike and slip on.
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Just get an H2. The 2019’s have them integrated already
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A PC for a 2018.

I'm using a PC 3, thought something that new would need a PC5.
For my bike it allowed a quick shifter, thought that was standard on the 2018?

Guess the question become why do you need it.
It will add another thing that could cause issues and being a new bike I would not be touching it until it's out of warranty.

If you found a PC 5 for $120 buy it and keep it for down the road.
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Hey guys so instead of wasteing $200 on that little stupid scratch(imma polish it and put a sticker over it) imma add $120 to that and get a power commander does anyone have a video or can write insturctions on how to install a 2018 zx6r? thanks!
In answer to your question...... the unit plugs into the bikes wiring harness. It basically installs between the ECU and the injectors. There are plugs of the correct gender for each of the places where you unplug the harness from then injector, and install the PC. The PC plugs to the injector, and the harness plugs to the PC.

You'll have to remove the seat, and the tank to install the PC. You will also need to make a power connection for the PC.

That should all be in the instructions with the kit. Unless you program the thing to change the fuel delivery, it will do nothing. As shipped, it will not modify the fuel delivery. You have to select the map you want to run, based on your modifications.

If you have your buddy coming over to fix your oil pan, he should be involved in doing this installation as well.
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I forgot to mention that the air box may need to come off, too.

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In answer to your question...... the unit plugs into the bikes wiring harness. It basically installs between the ECU and the injectors. There are plugs of the correct gender for each of the places where you unplug the harness from then injector, and install the PC. The PC plugs to the injector, and the harness plugs to the PC.

You'll have to remove the seat, and the tank to install the PC. You will also need to make a power connection for the PC.

That should all be in the instructions with the kit. Unless you program the thing to change the fuel delivery, it will do nothing. As shipped, it will not modify the fuel delivery. You have to select the map you want to run, based on your modifications.

If you have your buddy coming over to fix your oil pan, he should be involved in doing this installation as well.
so the shop still has my bike they waiting for part to arrive my bike will be done in about 4 days or so but im scared if i did any other damage to the bike besides the oil pan i mean the curb was only high enough to reach the oil pan but still
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so the shop still has my bike they waiting for part to arrive my bike will be done in about 4 days or so but im scared if i did any other damage to the bike besides the oil pan i mean the curb was only high enough to reach the oil pan but still
It really depends on what angle you hit the curb at, as to what other damage there may be. You did good, shutting it off immediately. Oil starvation is what destroys a lot of motors.

Damage to the pan, the exhaust header is running right beside the pan...... The pan has a shallow side, to make room for the pipe. The lower of the pipe is as low as the pan. If the pipe took a whack, that saved you from more serious mechanical damage. Pretty hard to damage the pipe so much that it won't work.... Until you crush it so much it can't flow the exhaust gasses well enough. If it was crushed by more than 1/4 it's diameter, it would be smart to replace.

If you hit the curb head on, it's possible that the front rim may be bent. Since you didn't get a flat tire, any damage there is unlikely to be catastrophic.

As it's in the shop, they should check all of that.

Believe it or not, almost all of us here, have done something similar. The first one either makes you smarter, or it doesn't. What happens the second time, is by and large determined by what you learned with #1.

My first (street) crash was about 6 months after I got my first brand new street bike. I slid out in a 35MPH corner, doing about 35..... California at that point did not require helmets, so neither myself or my passenger were wearing them. I was wearing nylon running shoes, corduroy slacks, a short sleeved polo shirt, and sunglasses. My passenger (Steve Thomas) was dressed similar. Labor Day weekend,1985? Maybe 1986....

We entered the corner on a wide boulevard in Alameda, California( Santa Clara avenue).... I saw something shiny on the pavement, so I tapped the back brake.

I don't recall coming off the bike, it happened so fast. I saw my bike on it's side spinning away from me. Three different colors of sparks --- then it occurred to me that sliding on pavement at 35 MPH should hurt. I looked below me, and realized I was laying on my passenger's back. I didn't think that was fair, so I intentionally put my hands and knees down and picked myself up so my weight wasn't on him.

We slid like that for a couple of car lengths, at least. Looking back I'm sure if was more. Because it was a long weekend, there were no vehicles parked along the curb. Steve's head stopped less than a foot from the curb. I would have killed or very seriously injured my best friend on any other day, on that street by stuffing under a car or hitting a wheel.

We both jumped up, got the bike upright and rode it back to my apartment. My girlfriend was royally pissed because I destroyed the pants she had bought me...... I married her anyway. We're still married.
The bike had scratches, and the Speedo needle got bent from whacking into the ground. I lost skin on my hands, forearms, knees, and the tops of my feet. Similar for Steve.

She insisted I take a course to learn what happened. And, that I wear a helmet. That's when I took the first MSF safety course on base, and was taught a sh*t load more than the previous ~10 years of screwing around on mini bikes, dirt bikes, and atv had taught me. Quite literally 30 years later, I still practice the drills I learned then.

Every crash I have had since that one, I've taken another course, and added more safety gear.

Anything short of tee boning a car, I am unlikely to be injured. I am less likely to tee bone that car...... Because I have been trained. I know what to look for, how far in advance I need to be able to identify the threats, and have multiple tools to manage the risk.

When you see a 5' tall 90 lb lady operate a motorcycle, and admit she can do it better than you --- that's when it sinks in. Riding is 90+% mental. Train your brain. The rest will follow.

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@RJ2112 hit the nail on the head

The best part/component you can get for your motorcycle is competency.

Not sure where you live but PA offers it for free up here. Also, not sure what your job situation is but the military also offers it for free.

Not saying sign up for Uncle same but just throwing it out there for you and others
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I always think it interesting that motorcycle insurance costs less in states that do not require helmets. It's an extremely pragmatic approach to costs.

The cost of totalling or repairing the bike is a known, finite expense. Medical costs can be orders of magnitude higher. A few hours in ICU will be more than the cost of the bike....... Medevac alone, is more. A week in ICU is likely six figures. The death benefit is less, in most cases. Dead riders can't she for damages, either.....

Dead riders cost insurance companies less than seriously injured live riders do.

F*ck that.

I've been paying into the system for the vast majority of the last 40 years. Anything I can do to get my monies worth out of the only system there is, is a worthy goal.

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so the shop still has my bike they waiting for part to arrive my bike will be done in about 4 days or so but im scared if i did any other damage to the bike besides the oil pan i mean the curb was only high enough to reach the oil pan but still
It really depends on what angle you hit the curb at, as to what other damage there may be. You did good, shutting it off immediately. Oil starvation is what destroys a lot of motors.

Damage to the pan, the exhaust header is running right beside the pan...... The pan has a shallow side, to make room for the pipe. The lower of the pipe is as low as the pan. If the pipe took a whack, that saved you from more serious mechanical damage. Pretty hard to damage the pipe so much that it won't work.... Until you crush it so much it can't flow the exhaust gasses well enough. If it was crushed by more than 1/4 it's diameter, it would be smart to replace.

If you hit the curb head on, it's possible that the front rim may be bent. Since you didn't get a flat tire, any damage there is unlikely to be catastrophic.

As it's in the shop, they should check all of that.

Believe it or not, almost all of us here, have done something similar. The first one either makes you smarter, or it doesn't. What happens the second time, is by and large determined by what you learned with #1.

My first (street) crash was about 6 months after I got my first brand new street bike. I slid out in a 35MPH corner, doing about 35..... California at that point did not require helmets, so neither myself or my passenger were wearing them. I was wearing nylon running shoes, corduroy slacks, a short sleeved polo shirt, and sunglasses. My passenger (Steve Thomas) was dressed similar. Labor Day weekend,1985? Maybe 1986....

We entered the corner on a wide boulevard in Alameda, California( Santa Clara avenue).... I saw something shiny on the pavement, so I tapped the back brake.

I don't recall coming off the bike, it happened so fast. I saw my bike on it's side spinning away from me. Three different colors of sparks --- then it occurred to me that sliding on pavement at 35 MPH should hurt. I looked below me, and realized I was laying on my passenger's back. I didn't think that was fair, so I intentionally put my hands and knees down and picked myself up so my weight wasn't on him.

We slid like that for a couple of car lengths, at least. Looking back I'm sure if was more. Because it was a long weekend, there were no vehicles parked along the curb. Steve's head stopped less than a foot from the curb. I would have killed or very seriously injured my best friend on any other day, on that street by stuffing under a car or hitting a wheel.

We both jumped up, got the bike upright and rode it back to my apartment. My girlfriend was royally pissed because I destroyed the pants she had bought me...... I married her anyway. We're still married.
The bike had scratches, and the Speedo needle got bent from whacking into the ground. I lost skin on my hands, forearms, knees, and the tops of my feet. Similar for Steve.

She insisted I take a course to learn what happened. And, that I wear a helmet. That's when I took the first MSF safety course on base, and was taught a sh*t load more than the previous ~10 years of screwing around on mini bikes, dirt bikes, and atv had taught me. Quite literally 30 years later, I still practice the drills I learned then.

Every crash I have had since that one, I've taken another course, and added more safety gear.

Anything short of tee boning a car, I am unlikely to be injured. I am less likely to tee bone that car...... Because I have been trained. I know what to look for, how far in advance I need to be able to identify the threats, and have multiple tools to manage the risk.

When you see a 5' tall 90 lb lady operate a motorcycle, and admit she can do it better than you --- that's when it sinks in. Riding is 90+% mental. Train your brain. The rest will follow.
Hey what’s up man they just told me my bikes ready so I’m on the way right now to go pick it up but I did not hit the curb head-on with the front room I just hit the side of the bike so I approach the curb with the side of the bike if that makes sense to wheels did not touch the curb at all it was at about 20 mph and the shop just told me it’s the oil pan and cosmetic damage on the faring so I don’t have to worry about the exhaust right because that’s all they told me they’re very honest people to me we all make each other laugh and we’re all friendly so they’re not trying to get money off me
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Sounds like you have been very lucky so far.

The trick is to build up your experience before you run out of luck.

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Dyno Jet has instructions on their website. Not really worth it when you can get a flash for like $199. I much prefer my woolich racing setup

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