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What do you think should happen to this fucking douchenozzle?

Do you think the cops should have pursued for nearly an hour?

Do you think stop strips or a bumper should have been used! Damn the consequences to this lowlife fucking idiot?---afterall he clearly did not care about his own life or that of others, why should we or the cops have cared about his?

What affect do you suppose this has on joe public and their thoughts and beliefs about motorcyclists? sportbikes in particular but you know it is more far reaching than that?


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Since they did not allow natural selection to reign supreme and just stop strip him or tag him with a bumper and let the laws of physics take care of the rest, what now? prison for how long? license back ever? and what about all those fucking retards that were riding with him as the pursuit began.

What is enough punishment?
 

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I am sure most of you already know what I think, but I will start...........

The fucker should be dead, spike strip the asshat, bump him with the bumper or just pull right out in front of him and make him decide ditch or car.

I have zero tolerance and absolutely no love lost for these kinds of fucking morons. The world would be a far better place with all of the people like this dead!

Why on earth should taxpayers now have to pay to put him in prison, where we pay to feed and house him so he can what.......learn even more shit skills in prison and come out and be even less productive in society than he clearly already is.

Fuck that, have the trial, convict him- then hang him with a noose or shoot him within 30 days end of story.......Start real punishments for some of these fucking morons and some of the morons will probably not act quite so moronically.

fyi~~I think murderers, rapists and other serious felons should also be executed........but I also think the burden of proof of guilt should be higher too, then 30 days, bang-done.
Cuz right now if you are arrested hell even accused of a crime you are thought of as guilty by society and the criminal justice system and you have to prove you aren't, which too often is nearly impossible~ especially if you are not millionaire.
 

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I agree man. It's fucking ass hats like this that always make the he public look down on us It's bullshit. They just had one out here in LA it was all over the news. it happened when I was as work every time I walk in I had to hear some smart ass comment about how it was my buddy or I would do the same. I was so pissed to be put in the same category as some fucking squid trying to look cool. It's bull shit fuck those types of people.
 

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Damn yall are harsh lol

I agree with bumping him to make him stop. I think road rash would definitely make him think twice. Not sure the tire spikes would work but that depends on the rider
 

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True but the spikes would slow any one down. I don't care what or how you ride. I have a lot of respect for stunters,but when other people might get hurt or have to see your mangled body is where I have an issue. And that goes for canyon riders being ass hats. I ride I have gone down and know I can get hurt or worse,but I do every thing in my power to make sure it me and no one else. Doing dumb shit on the streets is what bugs be the most.
 

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True but the spikes would slow any one down. I don't care what or how you ride. I have a lot of respect for stunters,but when other people might get hurt or have to see your mangled body is where I have an issue. And that goes for canyon riders being ass hats. I ride I have gone down and know I can get hurt or worse,but I do every thing in my power to make sure it me and no one else. Doing dumb shit on the streets is what bugs be the most.
Oh I agree with that completely especially having my own family and children. Last thing I'd ever want would be for someone to be hurt or worse because of a moronic decision made on my part.

In regards to the spike strips tho it's possible to go over them without even touching them. That's what I was referring to. Flat tires are pretty much game over tho.
 

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OMSpooner~ if you think we are harsch, then what do you think is the appropriate punishment for someone who doesn't care about anyone elses safety or their own?

Can you imagine what a 450 motorcycle with a 200 lb rider is going to do to any vehicle at 100+ and up to 150 in some parts of the chase while weaving traffic--let alone the occupants. Especially when he was driving the wrong way on the interstate with his lights out. Closing rate then nearing 200mph

I have zero respect for fucking morons who do any stunting on public roads or the morons who flee or ride like complete fucking douchenozzles.

You want to head out to the hills or the farm land and ride a bit fast where there is little traffic, hey go for it...... You want to ride in the city through traffic, ride responsibly and don't be a douchebag.

All these stunter fucktards who block down freeways and bullshit---- I would love the police to just plow right through the lot of them, that would send the right message!

Be a douche---die.
 
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OMSpooner~ if you think we are harsch, then what do you think is the appropriate punishment for someone who doesn't care about anyone elses safety or their own?

Can you imagine what a 450 motorcycle with a 200 lb rider is going to do to any vehicle at 100+ and up to 150 in some parts of the chase while weaving traffic--let alone the occupants. Especially when he was driving the wrong way on the interstate with his lights out. Closing rate then nearing 200mph

I have zero respect for fucking morons who do any stunting on public roads or the morons who flee or ride like complete fucking douchenozzles.

You want to head out to the hills or the farm land and ride a bit fast where there is little traffic, hey go for it...... You want to ride in the city through traffic, ride responsibly and don't be a douchebag.

All these stunter fucktards who block down freeways and bullshit---- I would love the police to just plow right through the lot of them, that would send the right message!

Be a douche---die.
What I think should happen and what will probably happen are more than likely to be on opposite ends of the spectrum. If you're gonna ride like a fool then balls up and take your punishment. Do you think the officer did right by continuing his pursuit or should he have called it off? I doubt his punishment will be severe enough to keep him from doing this again. I honestly think having his bike seized and auctioned along with a bit of prison rape would do him well. I don't wish death on the guy or nothing but nor do I think he should be allowed on anything with 2 wheels and a motor ever again.
 

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If this was through city streets then yes I say by all means stop the guy but out on the highway...how did he not lose the damn cops? Let the guy go, it's not worth it. Having a guy speeding on the highway going at a speed he is comfortable with is about a million times safer for everyone than a dumbass riding beyond his abilities just to escape the cops.
 

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So you're condoning capital punishment, without trial, for a traffic violation? Interesting...
 

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Ya know what I think?

I think its a shame the cops didn't employ a pit maneuver or spike strips to end this scum suckers fun (and hopefully life) once and for all.

Its dicks bags like this that give all of us bikers a bad rap, and I for one am sick and tired of paying the consequences.

You want to lead police on a chase? You want to ride like a dumb shit? You should be prepared to pay the ultimate price and NO ONE should give a shit when you do.
 

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If you're on a spirited ride through a canyon and a cop hears/sees you coming at a very high rate of speed, would it be ok for him to pull out in front of you or run you off a cliff to "end your stupidity"?
 

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If you're on a spirited ride through a canyon and a cop hears/sees you coming at a very high rate of speed, would it be ok for him to pull out in front of you or run you off a cliff to "end your stupidity"?
No, but if the cop does decide to pursue you and give you a speeding ticket, you should do the right thing and pull over, not lead the guy on an hour long wild goose chase putting innocent people at risk.

If said wild goose chase ensues, then yes, I would be happy if the cop rammed you right into the canyon for being a brainless twat.
 

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Yeah, I'm not OK with giving cops the authority to target and kill riders under any situation. No matter how idiotic they're being. Because where does it stop, and what does it open the door too?
 
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I simply have no sympathy for people who blatantly disregard the law and I find it especially deplorable when someone thinks its ok to disobey an officers direct orders.

If a cop tells you to pull over, put your hands behind your back, etc. then you need to do it. If you dont, youre a piece of shit and deserve whatever happens.
 

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Cops (most) are already drunk on power as it is, let's not give them any more power than they have. Where I live I could run from the cops on the highway for an hour and only pass 10 cars. Main concern here is Moose and Deer. Sad thing is, even the cops here are smart enough to have rules like no chases over 15min long and if they run and hit 180 break pursuit. Cops forcing the situation are just as much to blame. As I said, a guy comfortable is a million times safer than a guy in fight or flight mode.
 

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I'm not disagreeing that people need to respect authority, when authority deserves to be respected. But killing someone for non compliance related to a traffic violation is wrong. By all means take away their license for life and slap them with a bill for all the expense incurred during the whole ordeal, but they don't deserve to die. Or rather the cops shouldn't have the authority to decide that they deserve to die.
 

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I think the cops probably did the right thing, but now the rest of the justice system needs to go ahead and do their damn job...which they rarely actually do. I also think that every single person he passed on the highway should file a civil suit against him with any claims they possibly can - just make his life absolute hell for a while.

He should get his bike auctioned off, his license taken away for a minimum of about 10 years, go to prison for a few years, and have to pay the state back for all the money they spent on him while in prison. The problem, in my opinion, is usually with the punishment people end up getting from the court system - same problem you see with drunk drivers - throw the fucking book at them!!!
 
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