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Weird Vibration Near End of Braking

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#1 ·
So, I thought it was my rotors. It's almost certainly not. I thought it was my clutch not fully disengaging, again, almost certainly not.

Here's what happens:

I'll initially apply (front) brakes, and as weight transfers forward I apply more and more, and start slowing down -- obviously. No issues, everything feels fine. Then, as I apply even more pressure, to the point that the front end is really starting to compress, I'll start to feel a weird vibration -- I feel it through the entire front end, through the clip-ons. This vibration lasts a second or two, in extreme cases -- a few times -- I've felt it continue to vibrate a little after I've stopped, or have basically stopped. The amplitude of the vibration is kind of like a bell curve -- starts weak, strengthens, and then peters out.

Now, it's possible that it doesn't start until I've stopped actively compressing the forks, and it happens when the forks are starting to rebound.

Nothing seems loose in my front end -- (I'm pro torque wrench for everything but fairings and such :tounge2:), but I haven't actually gone through and checked the torque on anything since this started happening.

It feels as if the spring in one or both forks is catching on something (e.g., fork wall) as it rebounds, and causes a vibration.

* Fork seals are *not* leaking
* I have 8200 miles on the bike (2013 636)
* I crashed it at the track once which tweaked the front wheel alignment
* I Stiffened my suspension at the beginning of this season
* Have yet to change fork oil
* Have stock suspension

Any thoughts?
 
#4 ·
I would think the legs should be in alignment, then..... I'd be looking at the rotors to see if they are still 'true'. If they get hot and cannot move on the buttons, they will warp.
 
#5 ·
That's what i thought before, but it's like a spring is compressed and then slowly releases tension, and at times continues past the point that the wheels are moving fast enough to cause a vibration like that from the rotors spinning.
 
#9 ·
Haha.

I think so... I'm thinking it was the pads sticking to the rotors at low speed, causing a catch-and-release type thing. No issues braking at high speed, and forks have smooth travel all the way through. Pads aren't worn, either.

The only thing I can really come up with is some transfer of pad material on to the rotors due to holding the (front) brakes down while stopped after pushing the front brakes.

The problem seemed to have gone away since I stopped holding the front brakes down at a stop after hard riding, so, I'm not disinclined to believe that was the cause.
 
#10 ·
I was hoping for something more decisive. I had been chasing a vibration issue that was happening on my track bike since new: it would only occur when braking from 5th gear + speeds at the single longest straight at the track, any track. I tried swapping pads, forks, rotors, tires, steering head bearings. I also upgraded the braking system with a Brembo 19x20 mc, and racing quality lines. None of this helped over two years of track use, and since it only occurred at one corner of the track I just learned to tolerate it. Then one day it just went away! I had always made a point of only changing one variable at a time so I would know exactly what "fixed" it - but I didn't take into account tires and wish I would have verified tire balance myself after having new tires installed. This last time just prior to the problem going away I had new tires installed front and rear, and made a point of personally verifying the balance. My problem is that if it had been a tire balance issue, then all the front tires I've had installed since buying the bike would have had to been balanced incorrectly, and that just seems too hard to believe. So, I'm kind of in the same place as you - my problem has gone away - but I am not certain what the source of the problem was. I guess I should just be happy that it went away!