Transmission Question

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neptune

Discussion Starter · Apr 1, 2015

Hey everyone im posting up here after posting on Motorcycle talk ( wrong heading ), anyway I recently purchased a 1993 zx6d for $650.00. It runs awesome and idles perfect but 2nd gear is toast. From what ive read here it isnt a surprise the bike has been a stunt bike or beginerbike most of its life. It did have a title. My question is are there any other transmissions that will work like for instance zx7r or zx9r ect and what years. Id really like to purchase the trans before taring into it. Or do i limit myself to the zx6r tranmissions only? thanks:eh:

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moto82199

· #2 · Apr 1, 2015

What do you mean by 2nd gear is toast? Does it just slip out of 2nd gear or does it not go into 2nd gear? Most of the time it is the shift fork that is the problem, it gets bent therefore causing shifting issues. Only thing you can do is tear into it and fix whatever is wrong, wether it be a shift fork, 2nd gear itself, clutch.... Cant tell you if any other transmission will fit that bike. If it shifts hard into 2nd I have also seen the gear selector mechanism bent and that's a cheap easy fix. Download the manual off here....

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riverszzr

· #3 · Apr 1, 2015

They made that model..........91,92,93,94

You are going to be far better served taking it apart and seeing what it needs instead of guessing what it needs and going shotgun approach on it.......

But experience tells me you likely need atleast the one shift fork and likely to be 3 gears and then you have a few oil seals and gaskets to replace ~ possibly a shift drum

You don't have to take the top end apart to do it----flip the engine over and pull the lower case half off (after some other work obviously)

burnt shift fork only gets burnt because it it being ridden against the yoke in the gear- so that gear will also be toast---then you have the two it engages --one on each side.... all those engagement dogs will for sure be rounded over and/or chipped up too

thus the one shift fork and 3 gears plus the gaskets and seals would be a bare minimum......you could pre-order all that, and hope it needs nothing else

Honestly=if I was going in that deep....... I would do it all and make the whole thing fresh and fast!

output 2nd
output 6th
output 4th
corresponding output shift fork (there are two)

but you could also need a shift drum and more

that is why it is best to wait until you are in there and see what it needs and get that

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neptune

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 1, 2015

Thanks riverszzr and moto for responding. This is my first crotch rocket but not first mortocycle repair. Im glad ive got someyears to work with. Anyway il probally wait to order parts till i get apart. My only source is ebay or dealer. Is there a special place you guys shop for parts? These crotch rockets are pretty nice bikes i never realized they were good for 50,000 or more miles. It seemes to me that all transmissions during that time frame 91,92,93,94 should fit. I did know about the shift forks and the dogs of the gears getting rounded off and the shift drum from watching a vidio on utube. I will keep upm dating as i go along with this. It just runs so good i can't beleive it. What its doing is slipping out of 2nd as soon as i reease clutch and move throttle. I mean it slips hard and then like its in a false neutral.

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riverszzr

· #5 · Apr 1, 2015

I have had a few customers ride their bikes after losing 2nd gear like that and they got worse and worse and worse until ;
one of them broke the shift fork off and the little ear locked up the tranny and he crashed

the other went until the "ear" that goes into the drum to locate the shift fork broke- and that little ear busted the cases when it got lodged between the clutch basket gear and the cases and locked up the engine when it wedged between the crank drive and the clutch drive gears...

then some M109 guy rode his until all he had left was 1st gear and 4th gear, he got rear ended eventually because leaving lights he would shoot away super fast to redline then take so long to find 4th----car drivers obviously not paying enough attention, but on the other hand they saw him rocket away and expected him to not suddenly just about stop (and no brake lights etc either since it was just him fumbling to find the next available gear). I am sure bike nuts would blame the car driver but it was every bit as much the motorcycle riders fault as theirs!!!

So------- I would not continue to ride it that way, no good can come from that

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neptune

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 2, 2015

Thanks riverszzr I really never thought of that ,but anybody with half a brain can logically understand it. Im not riding till i fix transmission. I can get third gear but its not easy. I hav'nt even been to the DOT to transfer title yet. I wanted to let you know i did some research on fitments of other transmissions gears, parts ect. and from 1990 to 2000 the trannys are all the same from the ninja 250 to the zx11r beyond 2000 you better research. I got my info from my Kawasaki dealer website and just compared part #'s. So the story goes ive got alot of options. I know that when taring into transmissions you should replace circlips and washers with new ones. and the drum is avalible for $ 30.00 dollars at dealer, but gears are unavalible.

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riverszzr

· #7 · Apr 2, 2015

neptune said:
I wanted to let you know i did some research on fitments of other transmissions gears, parts ect. and from 1990 to 2000 the trannys are all the same from the ninja 250 to the zx11r beyond 2000 you better research. I got my info from my Kawasaki dealer website and just compared part #'s. So the story goes ive got alot of options. I know that when taring into transmissions you should replace circlips and washers with new ones. and the drum is avalible for $ 30.00 dollars at dealer, but gears are unavalible.

Whomever told you this bunch of bullshit probably has ocean front property to sell you in SD as well.

examples

output 2............................... output 4

13129-1898 ........................ 13260-1029 your 93 ZX6 (d)
13260-1568 ........................ 13260-1569 97 ZX6R
13260-1034 ........................ 13129-1782 250 Ninja
13260-1299 ........................ 13260-1139 ZX11

morons, surrounded by fucking morons...........

OH and all the gears are readily available and in warehouse in the USA

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neptune

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 3, 2015

To be honest i don't know what model i have. Heres the vin. #
JKAZX4D18FB508609 the title dos'nt say nothing about model maybe its hidden in the vin. number. My lack of knowledge of Kawasaki vin numbers has alot to do with it. The part numbers that were on the dealer website didnt have the -xxxx just the number before the dash. By the way my engine is painted black, is that normal? Maybe the PO did it.

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Strider

· #9 · Apr 3, 2015

neptune said:
To be honest i don't know what model i have. Heres the vin. #
JKAZX4D18FB508609 the title dos'nt say nothing about model maybe its hidden in the vin. number. My lack of knowledge of Kawasaki vin numbers has alot to do with it. The part numbers that were on the dealer website didnt have the -xxxx just the number before the dash. By the way my engine is painted black, is that normal? Maybe the PO did it.

Yes, you have to look at the whole part number not just the digits before the dash.

Also, welcome to the forum!

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riverszzr

· #10 · Apr 3, 2015

neptune said:
To be honest i don't know what model i have. Heres the vin. #
JKAZX4D18FB508609 the title dos'nt say nothing about model maybe its hidden in the vin. number. My lack of knowledge of Kawasaki vin numbers has alot to do with it. The part numbers that were on the dealer website didnt have the -xxxx just the number before the dash. By the way my engine is painted black, is that normal? Maybe the PO did it.

JKAZX4D18FB508609

This VIN does not come up under the Kawasaki data base.........

Either you copied incorrectly or ?????????

you could try any number of online "vin decoder" sites and see what you find but........ verify you have the correct VIN first.

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neptune

Discussion Starter · #11 · Apr 4, 2015

My bad the F is soppose to be a P. JKAZX4D18PB508609 I think i can figure it out its a 1993 zx6d, dose this make a Ninja? The frame is Ninja green and the engine is painted black the first zx motor ive seen painted. I would like to strip the paint off it any suggestions? The tank is black also. sorry for the wild goose chase. Thx.:sleeping:

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neptune

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 4, 2015

Well did my research on partzilla.com and rivers thanks for the info. Partszilla is a little cheaper on some parts and alot cheeper on others. So im going to order from them after i get the motor out and apart. Im did alot of comparing of parts ( gears shift forks drum ect. ) and once again rivers is right on 91,92, 93 and some of the 94 model transmission parts are the same.

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