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First endurance race report (Ultralightweight class with WERA on my R3). After only getting about 5-6 laps practice to learn the track, I started us off from a grid of 18 bikes. On the 3rd lap there was a red flag because 2 riders crashed and bikes were in the middle of the track. After about 15 minutes we went out for the restart but unfortunately 4 riders went down right away in turn 1 (that was not pretty, I have it on video I think). Another 12-15 minute delay followed that incident, then went out for the 3rd start of the race. Had a fun ride for about 10-12 laps running around with a guy on a CBR (either 250 or 300). He had a big disadvantage on the straights, but we passed each other a few times. Then I managed to pull away and put a gap between us running in 8th place and I was catching the guy in 7th. On about the 18th or 19th lap (i think?) I was right behind him on the straight when his shift lever fell off, so I didn’t have to work hard for that spot. With nobody else in sight and getting tired, I decided it was about time to pit in and let my teammate take over. A few laps into his session, there was another red flag and another delay of about 10 minutes. At this point we figured we could run the whole race without refueling. After the restart Jason (my teammate) was gradually improving his pace and he was in a group of 3 for several laps. He lost a few positions but we were down in 11th with just a few minutes left to go in the race when unfortunately the bike completely died on the 35th lap, lost all power, and he had to pull off. Because of that we lost a few more positions and finished in 14th (according to race monitor, haven’t seen official results), 8 laps down from the winner.
Overall it was a lot of fun, VIR is an awesome track, although very physical even on a little bike. Glad I did it, just wish we could’ve finished the race and that it wouldn't have been shortened by all those red flags.

I may post some edited video sometime. Certainly not gonna post the whole thing cuz it's pretty boring.

Also, it was nice meeting another forum member, @Otto Man! I don't know how you guys do it on the 600s and 1000s for 4 hours, cuz I felt beat up, completely exhausted after only about 35-40 minutes of riding and that was on an R3 only! lol
 

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Nice report, dam can not even imagine doing 4 hours at pace.

I'm pushing it to finish 20 minutes. (getting old sucks)

Looking forward to the video.
 

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Here's a short one while I'm working on editing the main one. Hopefully it embeds here this time!

 

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Dam, hope that was novice.
Seems some don't have the cornering bit down. LMAO.

Glad the one idiot wasn't behind you. OMG.
 

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Dam, hope that was novice.
Seems some don't have the cornering bit down. LMAO.

Glad the one idiot wasn't behind you. OMG.
You do realize this is a race right? They don't do grid race starts at a track day :coocoo

I don't know the guy personally, but he's about twice my age and at other tracks I've raced with him at he's actually faster than me. Even pros make mistakes, I wouldn't call him an idiot for that.
 

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You do realize this is a race right? They don't do grid race starts at a track day :coocoo

I don't know the guy personally, but he's about twice my age and at other tracks I've raced with him at he's actually faster than me. Even pros make mistakes, I wouldn't call him an idiot for that.
Dude, that’s pretty bad.. it’s almost like he wasn’t even aware of his own braking points and completely fixated on the other guy.

I am really on the fence about endurance racing, I have had a few teams friends reach out to me but I haven’t taken the plunge yet.

Was your R3 the bike y’all were riding? Is there any issues with it??
 

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Dude, that’s pretty bad.. it’s almost like he wasn’t even aware of his own braking points and completely fixated on the other guy.

I am really on the fence about endurance racing, I have had a few teams friends reach out to me but I haven’t taken the plunge yet.

Was your R3 the bike y’all were riding? Is there any issues with it??
During the first start I basically made the same type of mistake, except for luckily there was nobody in my way to hit so I just ran way wide lol...it's harder to figure out your braking point from a start because you're not going the same speed as you usually do. Most times I brake way too early at the start, so now I purposely held off and did it later and then I overcooked it a bit. Guessing maybe this guy did the same.

Yeah this was on my R3. What do you mean by issues? Other than the bike dying at the end with only like 2-3 laps to go, no everything was fine lol I gotta figure out what's wrong. It's an electrical bug that I've tried to chase before. 3 times in 1.5 years...thought I had it fixed last year but evidently not.

Personally though, I'm gonna just stick with sprint races. I don't think endurance is really for me. Not only that it's tough physically and mentally, but you also run a higher chance of missing out on racing and/or good results whenever something goes wrong. During sprint races, if you're signed up for 4 races in a day and something goes wrong with the bike in the first race, you miss that one but then maybe you can sort it out and you can still do the other 3. In an endurance race (especially 4 hours, or 6 hours like CMRA does), if something happens early on your race is basically over. I mean sure you can hustle around in the pits with your team and get it fixed but you may end up being like 10-20 laps down by then and at that point your chance for a podium or a decent result is now long gone. During sprint races if there is a red flag, usually you don't lose that many laps. It just ends up extending the day and then some races will be cut short by a lap, which is not a big deal. But for example in this race, last year the winner ran like 67 or 68 laps if I recall. This year was only 42. So everyone paid for 2 hours worth racing but only got about 2/3 of that.

I think I'd much prefer to do multiple sprint races in a day/weekend than an endurance race. But I will say it's a fun experience, just because it's different. I certainly do not regret doing this, and maybe at some point I will do another one, but it's not something I'm going to pursue. I'll stick to sprints for now.
 

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Here's some snippets from the race:

 

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VIR looks like a real nice track.

Guess I'll have to make it that way.

Yes, knew it was a race. The crash I referred to looked like a real noobie mistake.
From what your saying, it was just a mistake.

The shutting off the bike, habit. If you stick with it, I'm sure you will remember not to.

Missed the race monitor for your team name.

What was the issue with the bike.
 

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The big question is did you or Jason run faster lap times?
I would've thought it was obvious if we were in 7th when I made the pit stop and then we were in 11th when the bike died on him lol

I was about 7 seconds faster than Jason. I feel like I could run a bit faster in a sprint if I have someone to follow. I never had anyone to follow around except for the guy who broke his shift lever just as I got behind him, but that was only a lap and my pace was already a few seconds better. But it makes me realize how crazy fast the MotoAmerica kids are. I know their bikes are a bit faster cuz they're not stock like mine, but damn...Alex Dumas ran 1:36s here this year on his KTM, which is 15 seconds faster than my best!! And 4 seconds faster than Draik, who won the endurance race.

I love the team's name
Didn't know what it was but when I checked race monitor I figured it out right away
Yeah they didn't quite have it like I wrote it on the registration. I had Racing in quotations, so it was supposed to be Motorcycle Supply "Racing" Wannabes in reference to the MCS "Racing" stickers that Bill makes for slow guys like me who are not good enough to be part of the real MCS Racing crew :laugh
 

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This is a very humbling sport for sure, I ran personal best times last time out and am still 4-5 seconds per lap from winning

I have not earned my MCS livery yet, not sure if beating Bill at RA helped or hurt that? but it felt good
 

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This is a very humbling sport for sure, I ran personal best times last time out and am still 4-5 seconds per lap from winning

I have not earned my MCS livery yet, not sure if beating Bill at RA helped or hurt that? but it felt good
Whaaat? How did that happen?? I did see on race monitor that his lap times were shit, like way slower than last year, but wasn't he on a 400 this year? How did he go that much slower on it? I saw Drew went like 4 seconds faster than last year on his 400.
 

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Whaaat? How did that happen?? I did see on race monitor that his lap times were shit, like way slower than last year, but wasn't he on a 400 this year? How did he go that much slower on it? I saw Drew went like 4 seconds faster than last year on his 400.
Rain, it was the 500ss race but he doesnt have rains for the 400 so he was on his 300
 

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Rain, it was the 500ss race but he doesnt have rains for the 400 so he was on his 300
Ah rain...the great equalizer! Had my best finish this year in a wet race (4th place, fighting for 3rd but couldn't make the pass).
 

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Congrats man, as long as you had a good time it was probably worth it. Gonna have to try and catch these videos during my lunch break and see what this 300cc racing is all about!
 

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Congrats man, as long as you had a good time it was probably worth it. Gonna have to try and catch these videos during my lunch break and see what this 300cc racing is all about!
I don't know that I deserve any congrats for breaking down and finishing 14th out of 18, but thanks lol

Not much to see in the videos as there wasn't much racing going on with other bikes, so I didn't put many laps in the video but there are a couple from me and a few from my teammate. I have better videos on my youtube channel if you want to see little bikes racing :)
 

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I don't know that I deserve any congrats for breaking down and finishing 14th out of 18, but thanks lol

Not much to see in the videos as there wasn't much racing going on with other bikes, so I didn't put many laps in the video but there are a couple from me and a few from my teammate. I have better videos on my youtube channel if you want to see little bikes racing :)
So small world, I ran into the dad of Cassidy Heiser today who was a rider on the 2nd place team for VIR endurance heavyweight. Turns out he works at this mold shop I work with a few miles from my house. Been there a million times, just happened to role up on my bike while he was outside and he saw my Evolve stickers from my last TD. Think he also said he raced at Pitt Endurance on an R3 by himself.
 
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