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Michelin Power RS. Also you should do trackdays. “Leaning her over” on the street ends up badly
What pros/cons come with those tires? Just rear? Both front AND rear? Life span in miles? I ride 60-70 miles/day for work alone.

And by '"leaning her over" on the street ends up badly', are you referring to getting used to clutch-ups/wheelies or cornering? While I will fully admit I'm not a pro street bike rider, I'm nowhere near a noob to bikes or "stunts" (just not with a street bike weight). And I'm also open to any all/advice! :BigGrin
 

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I had a screw deep in my back tire and just purchased a new Bridgestone S21.. getting it installed tomorrow. Excited to test it out! ($123 at motosport.com plus $25 Visa card from Bridgestone)
 

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@Gawernator I keep hearing recommendations for the Pirelli Angel GT tires.
@MizzouRah Let me know how things go for you.

I have ~2500 miles on the OEM Battelax tires currently, they're nice for stock and for a commuter (mostly and currently) I feel like the life is too short for how I've been riding (70 miles round trip for work 5 days/week, mostly 55+mph).


On a side topic, I'm torn between what to do as for exhaust/FC mods. I've been reading @EvilTwin posts about the subject a bit (and tune Subarus myself) but would really like to get a Yoshi R-77 Carbon slip-on and a link-pipe, yet I hear deleting any of the CATs can cause a lean A/F ratio. My dealer says Kawasaki is pretty good about mods as long as they aren't the cause of the failure..SO I'd like to be heard, but if I won't cause damage with the Yoshi R-77 Carbon/link-pipe W/OUT the PCV/Bazzaz...will I regret it 10k miles later this year?
 

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I never had mine tuned to or checked the a/F ration for any lean conditions throughout the rpm's after removing the big box and installing a short slip on right to the header but I've got 32k miles on that setup and it's still running strong but I did insall a Juice Box Pro at the same time so that might have taken care of the fueling.
 

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@Gawernator I keep hearing recommendations for the Pirelli Angel GT tires.

@MizzouRah Let me know how things go for you.

I have ~2500 miles on the OEM Battelax tires currently, they're nice for stock and for a commuter (mostly and currently) I feel like the life is too short for how I've been riding (70 miles round trip for work 5 days/week, mostly 55+mph).


On a side topic, I'm torn between what to do as for exhaust/FC mods. I've been reading @EvilTwin posts about the subject a bit (and tune Subarus myself) but would really like to get a Yoshi R-77 Carbon slip-on and a link-pipe, yet I hear deleting any of the CATs can cause a lean A/F ratio. My dealer says Kawasaki is pretty good about mods as long as they aren't the cause of the failure..SO I'd like to be heard, but if I won't cause damage with the Yoshi R-77 Carbon/link-pipe W/OUT the PCV/Bazzaz...will I regret it 10k miles later this year?
I run Avon Storm 3D XM tires on my 09. They last in excess of 12,000 miles per set. Nearer to 15K. My commute distance is similar, as are the speeds.
 

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I run Avon Storm 3D XM tires on my 09. They last in excess of 12,000 miles per set. Nearer to 15K. My commute distance is similar, as are the speeds.
How do you think they compare to the stock Battleax tires? I probably won't put my knee to the ground this year (WNY roads are so dirty and there's too many farms with dust/ect), so for the spirited riding I do I just don't want to get them and find out "oh btw you have to reduce your fun by 45%+. I understand they won't have the exact same grip at something more sticky, but I just hope it's not a take that 90+ turn at 45 now, does that make sense?

Also how are those tires in the rain? Compared to stock in the rain? @Gawernator @MizzouRah @RJ2112


On a side note, I'm having a scenario where sometimes I'll miss 2nd from 1st, regardless of RPM. And the worst part is the noise trying to go into 2nd. At low speeds I just slow down enough to go back to 1st (rev match), but at higher speeds (40+) it makes me cringe. Is this common? Will it destroy my gear(box)?
 

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How do you think they compare to the stock Battleax tires? I probably won't put my knee to the ground this year (WNY roads are so dirty and there's too many farms with dust/ect), so for the spirited riding I do I just don't want to get them and find out "oh btw you have to reduce your fun by 45%+. I understand they won't have the exact same grip at something more sticky, but I just hope it's not a take that 90+ turn at 45 now, does that make sense?

Also how are those tires in the rain? Compared to stock in the rain? @Gawernator @MizzouRah @RJ2112


On a side note, I'm having a scenario where sometimes I'll miss 2nd from 1st, regardless of RPM. And the worst part is the noise trying to go into 2nd. At low speeds I just slow down enough to go back to 1st (rev match), but at higher speeds (40+) it makes me cringe. Is this common? Will it destroy my gear(box)?
Are you shifting without the clutch or something?

As for the tires no idea on avon, I don’t think any of the name brand tires are really “bad”.
 

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OP, the only difference I can tell, is when you first start using the Avons, the tread blocks are taller than the OEM tires. This makes the tread more flexible.... Running the tires at the high end of the recommended pressures fixed that.
 

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@Gawernator no I'm using the clutch every time, and it's random and only from 1 to 2. Dealer said due to the extra space between those gears and Neutral. I guess I'm just torn between the Avon being known for higher mileage and the Pirelli being best of both for the price.
@RJ2112 When you say "tread blocks" are you referring to the chunks of tread/the tread pattern? I've heard they last longer but are really hard and don't grip as well in the rain/below 70*, and that they're great...I do go quite fast AND need the grip for the rare occasion I decide I need to "shit and get"
@SideWinder I honestly haven't even plugged my phone into the computer in months, they're all going on Insta. BUT I guess I could try to post some on here eventually XD


Kinda sounds like if the Avon are less grippy than the Pirelli then I may stick to the grip lol. And sticky tires are probably better for tricks seeing as I'm getting somewhat more at ease with testing my clutch-up ability/learning.
 

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I try and avoid stating numbers that are incriminating on public forums. You're not saying anything unusual, for me. I whack the throttle to the stop and run it through a number of gears to red line, every ride. I see the shift light flash at least once a week.

I ride down to 35°F, every year. I am on the bike riding in every month.

I haven't had any problems with tire slipping or skidding with the Avons. Because the tread is physically thicker on the tire carcass, it can wiggle a bit, if you run them at lower pressure.

I run them at 36/41, & they behave as well as any other tire I have used. They last a lot longer, and are therefore less expensive in time, and materials.
 

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@RJ2112 I didn't realize I was stating incriminating numbers..whoops. Typo? Damn number pad :p

I actually just had to drop the bike off at the shop for a new rear tire as today when I got to work, I saw steel belts. And unfortunately didn't have the funds/time to wait for a tire to be ordered for much less than the shop charged me for a Angel GT w/ install (don't ask cost). Hoping for it to be done tomorrow, not only because I want to ride and/or have plans after work..but also because it's my only transportation (getting a ride).

Took a pic of the tire, I'll toss it on the gram tonight. And MAYBE post a pic on here of the bike.

Ughh it's been 5 hours and I'm having withdrawals....someone help?
 

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Whaaaat's up everybody?

Been a couple weeks since I got the Angel GT rear installed and it's been a blast to have so far. I've been getting used to the 636 more and more, between being able to boogie woogie and lean her over, I doubt there will be any chicken strips on these tires when I'm done. A buddy from the shop I bought the bike from owed me for sending some work his way and bought me an Angel GT front tire seeing as I'll need to swap the front by the middle of July.

In other news, not only have I been carefully pushing myself more and more, but I've also been getting used to having a backpack ride along. The 636 has 6300+ miles on her, just did my first DIY oil change since the 1000 mile break-in I paid the dealer to do (as well as check the bike over). I've also been occasionally learning to get the front wheel up a little at lower speeds (talking maybe 2-3 inches up for a second or two), I'm really interested in either building a wheelie bar or finding a local bike shop that offers classes. The latter isn't very probable in my area which sucks because that would be worth the money.

I'm also looking into some new accessories, and debating between a 5-piece tank grip set, a Sena 30K, levers, or saving a bit more for the fuel rails/lines/FPR for my wrx. Any thoughts? I've tested my music on a Sens 20S and it couldn't handle the low frequencies without distorting.
 

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Hey guys and gals, been busy lately. I'll have 12,000 miles by the end of today on the 636 within 5 months of buying it, had the front wheel up 3-4' as well as the rear, leaned her over far enough to grind the left peg a bit for the first time last week and boy was that an eye opener if you aren't ready for it.

Did my 2nd oil change, had a 3rd rear tire installed recently as well as a 2nd front tire. Starting school in a couple weeks so things may slow down a bit here..maybe. Going to do the 1st valve clearance service in about a month here and DIYing it with a tech from the shop I bought the bike from costing a whopping 12pack and pizza haha.

The weather here in WNY is being bi-polar again with 80+ in the day and 50ish at night. Working on getting the WRX back running with a new FPR soon, and going to have to put mods for the bike on hold. I've settled on a Woolich ECU, AEM UEGO, Scorpion GP CF slip-on and link pipe for power mods for next year. Doing all the tuning myself and we shall see how different she feels.

Hope all is well with my biker peeps! Peace out and have fun!
 
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Well..lately I've been tracking down/diagnosing a wobble in the handlebars. Pretty sure it's out of spec, and the fact it's sometime joined by a "POP" noise I'm not too happy. Other than the 1/2" of bar end wobble around 45-60MPH (light touch/no holding) and coasting, it seems fine. It's stable in the corners mostly but I have had a couple scenarios where I didn't feel too sure, and today with speed during heavy braking in front, as I applied the rear brakes it started getting loose/squirrelly until you let off rear brakes.

Any thoughts?
 

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Hey guys and gals, been busy lately. I'll have 12,000 miles by the end of today on the 636 within 5 months of buying it....
Dang that is impressive.
Mind sharing a few things? OTD price, insurance price & your age. Thanks. I'm looking at a couple 2017 leftovers myself. Almost 2 years old so there's good deals to be had. Keep the rubber side down
 

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for the street I'm partial to the Michelin Road 4 or 5. My current bike had Road 4GT's on it (should have had Road 4 but dealer put a GT on the front and I matched it). They did great on a 4,100 mile trip last week and don't seem to be flat in the enter even though I did lots of straight miles. Today I fond a nice little mountain road that made me which I had an off road bike!!! It was worse than it looks, the 3rd photo does not show how steep and sharp it was.
 

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