So you stabbed the rear brake and locked it up? I was a little confused at first on what happened. Glad you're okay
If you figure out how little the difference is, I think you'd reconsider this. The only difference to your internal organs, and bones in the scenario you describe is how fine the paste that was your body will be.Well...think of it this way: Lets say theres a car taking a turn too fast and its gonna crash into the wall. Would u rather be strapped to the hood of the car or strapped to the trunk?
Id rather be on the trunk. My body will have the same momentum regardless, but this way I would be using the car as the "shock absorber" to cushion my impact.
Uuuh, so the argument used previously about strapped to the trunk or strapped to the hood is, honestly, pretty dumb.The crumple zones on a car are designed to absorb about 10 MPH of kinetic energy/foot 1 foot crunched in car, it hit at about 10 MPH.... 2 feet= 20, 3 = 30 etc. The car crumples, because there's about 3,000 lbs of mass involved. When the car comes to a stop, and you hit the trunk...... you don't have the mass to make the car crumple in.
The only differential in speed would be how much the nose of the car crumpling slows down before chassis you hit the back. If you are both doing 60, and the car hits a cliff and stops completely.... you're hitting the trunk at 60. 88 feet per second.
The only reliable crumple zone a rider has is their own body. Armor won't improve the situation by more than a very few MPH. No such thing as an Iron Man suit........Downey would have been thin layer of paste on the inside of the suit many times over.Any crumple zone in front of u is still a lot better than u taking a direct hit yourself.
U cant argue with that. Thats the point I was trying to make with being strapped to the front vs back of the car.
Except that's exactly what I'm arguing. A motorcycle that impacts before you do is NOT a crumple zone for you. You're in no way slowed down by hitting after it does. As far as your body and G forces on deceleration are concerned, there's no difference if you hit a car or a wrecked bike at that speed.Any crumple zone in front of u is still a lot better than u taking a direct hit yourself.
U cant argue with that.
Crumple zone? :OApparently crumple zones dont really exist :O
A crumple zone on a car, only works if the people in the car are restrained. If the car comes to a stop, and they don't...... they're still going just as fast as they were, and will come to the same complete stop as the car. It's that sudden stop at the bottom we keep talking about.Apparently crumple zones dont really exist :O
Crumple zone? :O
I get what your saying. Crashing and having the bike in front of me would make me feel better than just flying face first into an immovable object. Don't know if it will do any good against wall's but might help against cars. At least as a placebo effect.
Ultimately I think motorcycle armor is the most effective way to avoid some of that direct energy.
Here is an example of a functional crumple zone in action, featuring Loris Baz, using leathers/ armor specifically designed to absorb impact that would otherwise be transmitted directly to the rider's body.
Here's some video from Loris Baz's crash in Sepang. The airbag suit obviously serves as a "crumple zone" of sorts.
Here is some impact data.
Alpinestars Releases Loris Baz Crash Data | Cycle World
"Just exactly how intense was the crash though? Incredibly so, suggests the data, which confirms that Baz was running a staggering 180 mph when he first lost control of his Desmosedici GP14.2. He held on for another two seconds, but was eventually launched from the bike and landed on the ground 60 milliseconds later, with the highest energy impact recorded at 29.9 g on his left shoulder. The French rider then slid for a total of 6.6 seconds, Alpinestars says, adding that, “Despite the speed and level of impact force associated with the crash, Loris was able to walk away and resume testing.”