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Just bought my first bike a couple of weeks ago. I've never rode before, and of course, within the first couple of weeks I've dropped it once and laid it down once. The bike still is running fine, but I've done a decent amount of cosmetic damage to the right side. (Its a 2009 Monster Special Edition zx6r). If anybody needs to see pictures to answer my questions then I will gladly take them and post them!

On to my questions. #1 - The rear end of this bike is lowered. Like... a freaking ton. Everybody who's seen the bike has actually asked why Ive got it so low. The previous owner had lowered it. Id like to raise it back up. So far, the advice I've gotten tells me that Im going to need to change out the dog bones that are currently on the rear suspension. I found these on ebay. Is this all that I will need? 09 11 zx6r Rear Shock Linkage Knuckle ZX6 Dogbone | eBay

Question #2 - When I dropped the bike the first time, I broke off the tip of my rear brake pedal. If i twist my foot inwards, I can still actuate the brake, but I definitely need to replace it. Id like to just replace the pedal itself, but all Ive been able to find so far is the entire right side rear assembly. Does anybody know where I can find just the lever/pedal?

Question #3 - Frame Sliders. I need them. Soon haha. At this rate I'm going to destroy my bike before I've made it over the learning curve. Any Recommendations on some decently priced sliders for a 2009?

Question #4 - New Right Side Fairings? The only major damage that's been done has been to the right fairing. Some has been done to the top of the front fairing, but not enough to necessitate replacement. Id been looking into buying replacement fairings that would match those already on the bike, but I think that it would be a better Idea to just find a plain black side piece and slap a new monster logo on it honestly. Where should i begin looking for a new piece? Obviously I'm not going to replace it just yet, but Id like to begin looking so that I can have a general idea when it comes time to actually replace the one I currently have on the bike.

Question #5 - Id like to put some LED's on the bike. Prefferably Green to match the monster logos. Does anybody know of a good place too look for LED's?
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Hey man, sorry to hear about your early troubles. Have you taken the MSF course, by any chance? I quickly searched ebay and found these brake pedals.

New Original Foot Brake Pedal Right Side 2009 2012 zx6r ZX600 43001 0118 | eBay

Brake Pedal Rear Foot Lever for Kawasaki ZX 6R zx6r 636 2005 2006 2012 Black | eBay
Sry to hear about your downs, but get frame sliders or race rails asap. And take a msf course even faster. They will teach you the fundamentals and you can thrash their bikes. And I hope you got gear. I am not trying to bash just don't want to seeanyone get hurt. And to be honest 09's seem to fry stators when extra electrical loads are put on I would shy away from them, but that's just my .02 .
Oh and if you pay shipping from Menifee CA 92584 I got a brake pedal you can have.
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#1 looks right; I still have the OEM links on my '09, so I have not taken a good look at them to say these are the same -- but if they are correct that's all you need for the back end. You will need to adjust the front end to match or the steering will be really f'd up.

#2 DatNYer already has covered.

#3 you get what you pay for.... almost all the cheap slider setups are similar. If it has a single bolt which you use to replace an existing engine mounting bolt, you run the risk of destroying the frame if you crash at speed. the bolt may warp, and lever the threads out of the engine, or crack the frame where it passes through. Far better to look at designs that use 3 points of connection, so the force is spread out. Sato and a few others have this design. You have a choice between 'no cut' and 'cut'.... that implies you need to modify the fairings to mount the sliders.

#4.... start searching here on 'fairing repair' and see if you get any insight on what may be done with what you have now.
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Hi welcome!

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. Glad you are ok!

*warning the following may sound preachy, sorry if I sound like a dick tldr ride safe, gear and training. *

I'm going to break this into <advice I took and credit with my survival in this sport> And <things I wish i heard/did when I crashed my overpowered sportbike 2 weeks in>

Advice I took
If you don't already have it:
Full gear (all mc specific)((helmet, jacket/pants, armor for all major joints and spine, boots, gloves))
At least MSF brc and full mc license/endorsement.
Real training at a track. Even if you don't plan to ride track. It helps.

Watch and read Twist of the wrist 2. Several times. Anyone who lives with you should recognize the intro scene to the movie. Fyc they are located here and below.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KVWLIfChUwg

Advice I wish I had taken:
Do whatever it takes to get into a bike with no more than half the power of a zx6r. There are many options. Anything in the 50 hp range with a single front rotor will beat any average car to 60mph, has all the fun of the zx at street pace, and better ergos. One option, also happens to be the bike I recent added to my stable, is a klr650.
Pros:
Built like a tank.
Cheap. In every sense of the word.
Can go anywhere.
Very light feeling, and quite quick. It will break the speed limit on any road.
Simple to work on with very little to break.
Slow to anger. Will not punish as hard for the same mistakes.
Enough power to be fun, but harder to get in trouble.
300 miles per tank.

Cons:
Ummmmmm... :O

Ride safe. There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. There are no old and bold pilots.

I'm useless mechanically, except the most basic problems... Not reliable for those either.

Ey3
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First question.... Post a picture of your rear lowering links. Most aftermarket kits have a stock setting. You may not need to buy anything you may just need to raise it.

Number 2. Someone offered a free one. Take it.

3. Frame sliders might help but investing in your riding is your best bet. I don't mean that in a mean way. I still go to parking lots and do drills. Basic rider course. Do it... Then do the advanced rider course. I'd actually suggest doing advanced rider course over doing a track day, at this point.

4. It's cosmetic. Don't replace. Costs an ass loads and I promise it's not your last crash. Invest that money in those courses. I swear it pays off!

5. Leds... Ehh not my thing. I'd say don't do it. One of the first things I look at in a used bike is if the po did some shit electric work typically Leds
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Thanks everyone for the advice and the help thus far!

Id just like to start by saying that I have taken the BRC, and already plan on taking the ARC in may. Im in the Navy, so it takes a little while to get into the classes, but they are free, and mandatory haha. As far as gear goes, I have full gear, minus boots. I have been riding in jeans, my riding jacket, helmet and gloves at all times. Safety is definitely number 1 priority for me.
Sry to hear about your downs, but get frame sliders or race rails asap. And take a msf course even faster. They will teach you the fundamentals and you can thrash their bikes. And I hope you got gear. I am not trying to bash just don't want to seeanyone get hurt. And to be honest 09's seem to fry stators when extra electrical loads are put on I would shy away from them, but that's just my .02 .
What about some sort of external power source? From what I understand, the power draw on LED's is supposed to be almost negligible.

And as far as the brake lever goes, I would most certainly be willing to pay the shipping for it! I would really appreciate that.
Hi welcome!

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. Glad you are ok!

*warning the following may sound preachy, sorry if I sound like a dick tldr ride safe, gear and training. *

I'm going to break this into <advice I took and credit with my survival in this sport> And <things I wish i heard/did when I crashed my overpowered sportbike 2 weeks in>

Advice I took
If you don't already have it:
Full gear (all mc specific)((helmet, jacket/pants, armor for all major joints and spine, boots, gloves))
At least MSF brc and full mc license/endorsement.
Real training at a track. Even if you don't plan to ride track. It helps.

Watch and read Twist of the wrist 2. Several times. Anyone who lives with you should recognize the intro scene to the movie. Fyc they are located here and below.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KVWLIfChUwg

Advice I wish I had taken:
Do whatever it takes to get into a bike with no more than half the power of a zx6r. There are many options. Anything in the 50 hp range with a single front rotor will beat any average car to 60mph, has all the fun of the zx at street pace, and better ergos. One option, also happens to be the bike I recent added to my stable, is a klr650.
Pros:
Built like a tank.
Cheap. In every sense of the word.
Can go anywhere.
Very light feeling, and quite quick. It will break the speed limit on any road.
Simple to work on with very little to break.
Slow to anger. Will not punish as hard for the same mistakes.
Enough power to be fun, but harder to get in trouble.
300 miles per tank.

Cons:
Ummmmmm... :O

Ride safe. There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. There are no old and bold pilots.

I'm useless mechanically, except the most basic problems... Not reliable for those either.

Ey3
Thanks Man! I will definitely give this video a watch.

Unfortunately Ive already purchased a superfast sports bike ;) so theres no turning back at this point. However, I do plan on learning as much as I can, and being as safe as possible.
First question.... Post a picture of your rear lowering links. Most aftermarket kits have a st Ck setting. You may not need to buy anything you may just need to raise it.

Number 2. Someone offered a free one. Take it.

3. Frame sliders might help but investing in your riding is your best bet. I don't mean that in a mean way. I still go to parking lots and do drills. Basic rider course. Do it... Then do the advanced rider course. I'd actually actually doing advanced rider course over doing a track day, at this point.

4. It's cosmetic. Don't replace. Costs an ass loads and I promise it's not your last crash. Invest that money in those courses. I swear it pays off!

5. Leds... Ehh not my thing. I'd say don't do it. One of the first things I look at in a used bike is if the I've did some shit electric work typically Let's.
I will certainly post a couple pics of the bike tomorrow. Right now its dark and too late to go out and take pictures, unfortunately.

As far as LED's go, from what I understand, the original owner had installed LED's on the bike, but the guy that I bought it from had gone through and actually cut the wires because the bike was just sitting in the garage for the majority of the time that he owned it. Ive found one LED strip that is still on the bike, and there is evidence of others, so the wiring has certainly already been messed with in the past. A part of why I want to put my own on the bike (admittedly, not the majority of the reason though =P) is so that I can go through and actually figure out what was done to it in the past. Id like to be able to learn as much as I can about the bike. I love getting my hands dirty and doing things myself.
One other question that i had for you guys, is where should I look to find an Owners Manual for my bike? The guy I bought it from did not have it.
Well hopefully those mishaps are behind you now and you can rebuild your confidence with those rider training courses. As for fixing everything, ebay and the forum are your friend. You should be able to pick up parts for less than half the price of new.
One last thing, if safety is important to you then pick up a pair of riding boots asap! And at least some kevlar jeans.
Definitely! Any places I should start looking at first for boots and kevlar jeans?
Definitely! Any places I should start looking at first for boots and kevlar jeans?
revzilla, stg, site's classifieds, CL, ebay, etc

Go check out revzilla's site for reviews and stuff...then check around for best price...there are plenty of guys/gals on here that can provide with opinions of which brands. I ride mostly with just jeans and my Dr Martens boots.
Thanks Man! I will definitely give this video a watch.

Unfortunately Ive already purchased a superfast sports bike ;) so theres no turning back at this point. However, I do plan on learning as much as I can, and being as safe as possible.
In that case (same route I took) welcome to the madness!

I would agree with most above on not worrying about cosmetics. Look up "streetfighter zx6r"... Less to break. At least until you have 6,000+ miles (iirc that is when msf/hurt say the probability of gravitational events goes way down)

Ey3
Definitely! Any places I should start looking at first for boots and kevlar jeans?
Search the classifieds. Lots of used gear. I am selling some but no Kevlar jeans. Look for closeouts on sites and used gear. You will pay a ton less and be well protected. Unless money isn't an object then yea he buy some sweet ass new gear.
On to my questions. #1 - The rear end of this bike is lowered. Like... a freaking ton. Everybody who's seen the bike has actually asked why Ive got it so low. The previous owner had lowered it. Id like to raise it back up. So far, the advice I've gotten tells me that Im going to need to change out the dog bones that are currently on the rear suspension. I found these on ebay. Is this all that I will need? 09 11 zx6r Rear Shock Linkage Knuckle ZX6 Dogbone | eBay
Yup, those are OEM links so that should bring her back to stock height.

Question #2 - When I dropped the bike the first time, I broke off the tip of my rear brake pedal. If i twist my foot inwards, I can still actuate the brake, but I definitely need to replace it. Id like to just replace the pedal itself, but all Ive been able to find so far is the entire right side rear assembly. Does anybody know where I can find just the lever/pedal?
You can get just the lever from Bike Bandit, its part number 2631627. Here is the link:

2009 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R ZX600R9F Parts, 2009 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R ZX600R9F OEM Parts - BikeBandit.com

Question #3 - Frame Sliders. I need them. Soon haha. At this rate I'm going to destroy my bike before I've made it over the learning curve. Any Recommendations on some decently priced sliders for a 2009?
Do you want cut or no cut? In other words, are you ok with making a cut in the plastics to accept the slider or do you want to avoid that? I really like the sliders that Woodcraft has to offer. Solid construction, and if and when you go down you can replace just the puck for $14 rather than the entire thing.

Question #4 - New Right Side Fairings? The only major damage that's been done has been to the right fairing. Some has been done to the top of the front fairing, but not enough to necessitate replacement. Id been looking into buying replacement fairings that would match those already on the bike, but I think that it would be a better Idea to just find a plain black side piece and slap a new monster logo on it honestly. Where should i begin looking for a new piece? Obviously I'm not going to replace it just yet, but Id like to begin looking so that I can have a general idea when it comes time to actually replace the one I currently have on the bike.
So long as the fairing is not hanging off in a dangerous manner or in risk of flying off while you are riding, I would leave it alone for now. Not to be insulting, but if you have already gone down twice you will likely go down again. Just beat on the stuff you have now for a while until you feel more comfortable and confident. As far as eventual replacement, you can get OEM stuff from Bike Bandit or any one of the online parts distributors or you could always look for second hand stuff on eBay or elsewhere. There are also tons of Chinese brands out there that are very affordable but fit and finish will be questionable.

Question #5 - Id like to put some LED's on the bike. Prefferably Green to match the monster logos. Does anybody know of a good place too look for LED's?
Where exactly are you looking to put the LED's and what type of look/effect are you after? I have seen LED strips on eBay that are cheap and effective for lighting the body components.
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