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Didn't realize the flat white was such a pain

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short story - scratched my tank. took it in to get a quote for a touch up or even paint the entire tank. Dude didn't want anything to do with my bike, saying that it wouldn't be advantageous to him to try and get it perfect, and that he'd lose money charging me the "normal price", which he said started at $250.

I was not thrilled.

Not too many paint places near me. I guess I'm gonna get the colorrite touch up kit and do it myself, results be damned.

Any suggestions?

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Go to another place that will do the job?
There is also a pearl in the white so it will definitely be a challenge to match up but any competent body shop ought to be able to do it. Just might not be cheap...
What a idiot he must not want the job.. Get the paint code for the white or have someone match.. Sand off clear, shoot the paint dry shoot the clear color sand
what you have to understand is, there is no "touch up" that will look good. any quality autobody or motorcycle refinishing shop will have to paint the ENTIRE TANK to make it look good. most places have their own paint system, and do not want to order from color rite anyway.

your best bet is to buy a set of r&g carbon fibre tank slider/protectors that will go over the area and hide your boo boo. R G Racing Carbon Fibre Tank Sliders to Fit Kawasaki zx6r 2009 2014 Ninja Tank | eBay

but, bashing a guy that has to put his name and reputation on a finished product, because he refuses to cut corners on a repair, when you don't understand what the "correct" repair would be, is not nice.

to start you have to remove the tank, disassemble the tank, and remove ALL THE FUEL AND VAPORS (it will go into a baking booth to cure the finish), then you have: the repair, then the refinish, and finally replacement of the 2 ninja logos, plus paint and materials for repair and refinishing. maybe the shop doesn't do bikes. call your local dealer, ask who they use for refinishing repairs. that will be a good place to start.

those pearl colors are awesome but, they come at a price. that price is, they are expensive to repair correctly.

and for the record, I have the pearl white 13 as well. my race body work was painted a custom pearl white, so I didn't have to buy color rite paint. Ski
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This is the reason i wrapped my bike. The paint looks good, but sucks at the same time because its a pain to maintain. I would personally get the R&G Carbon fiber Tank Sliders skidooboy mentioned, or you could just wrap your tank.
Ski nailed it. Cover that up with the tank covers and call it done. If you insist on not running those, you will need to get the entire tank painted, and there is a very good chance that in sunlight it will not exactly match your body panels.
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but, bashing a guy that has to put his name and reputation on a finished product, because he refuses to cut corners on a repair, when you don't understand what the "correct" repair would be, is not nice.
Whoa there fellow forum member. I am by no way bashing him or trying to be "not nice". As stated in my title, I was not aware it was such a pain (until speaking with him). He said the same thing about "touch-ups" that you mention, as well as a small bit of other helpful info. He was a very nice dude. The people I spoke to said "he's the guy to see" in my area. Just because I said I was not thrilled, only means I did not enjoy the outcome of my situation. I did have some reservations that the job is not as impossible as he claimed, but I think you mistake my brevity in explaining the situation for some type of lack of respect for the dude I spoke with.

I appreciate the links, and my full intent was to purchase those regardless if I can get it painted, touched up, or whatever (wish I would have before). I'm not looking for absolute perfection, but I know that me using the touch-up kit wouldn't be any better than giving a 2yr old a paint marker and letting them go to town (no offense 2yr olds). I just got off the phone with a guy who said he's done a lot Harley mattes, is familiar with my bike, and is interested to give me a quote after he looks at the damage in person. It just stinks he's a little more than four hours round trip for me to go see.
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Ski nailed it. Cover that up with the tank covers and call it done. If you insist on not running those, you will need to get the entire tank painted, and there is a very good chance that in sunlight it will not exactly match your body panels.
I really do appreciate his/your advice and hope my response to him didn't come off as being too defensive to him or anyone else. I'm really not trying to start an argument and only want to address the issue...

I guess my worry is that leaving it be or putting the guards on to cover it up will allow it to get worse, with it being bare metal and all. Even though those R&G protectors are attached with adhesive/sealant, I'd worry that moisture would find its way in there and rust the bare spots. Is that a legitimate concern?

I just don't want it to look like total crap, and or make it worse down the road.
Lot of experts in this thread. There are no paint codes for these bikes. Pearl is almost impossible to match, and so is white, I wouldn't want to be the guy matching a pearl white.

There's a good chance that if you get it painted, it won't match perfectly. Get the tank sliders and call it a day.
-Cody
it's all good, no worries. very hard to interpret the written word, and as I work in the collision repair industry, sometimes it gets under our skin, when people think the repairs should be more cost effective, or easier than we estimate, or describe.

oem matching of finishes on anything is an art. I have ALOT of respect for those in the industry, with a high emphasis on quality, on the business end of the spray gun. they make or break how our finish jobs comes out. Ski
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get the guards, make sure it covers all your concerns, if they do, get some clear touch up from the automotive store, or a white touch up, and cover the bare metal for protection. that should address most of your concerns, and look good afterward. Ski
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well it sounds like just touching it up and puttin' on the covers is the way to go then.. It certainly sounds like it will be cheaper, even though that's not a huge concern.

I might have to find a friend with a better brush stroke than me, so to speak.

I appreciate all the input. I'll make sure to get some pics up once I get'r'done.
There is plenty of body shops that have paint makers the finest I've seen is the Wanda its a Brazilian paint mixer of course it never comes out exactly the same which is why I agree he SHOULD get the entire tank painted for the best job possible. There is other paint machines like ppg that does very well pretty spot on most of the time.. I'm not bashing but it's redculous he didn't give him another option. I'm no expert but am a production manager for local ford dealership body shop and letting this customer leave telling him there no other option is not acceptable.. Most whites have pearl not all Toyota has two white one with one without the one without is 040 Toyota paint code.. Like I stated I'm no expert I just know certain things about the field.
To the op find out where major insurance company's take vehicles near you and try them you want to try and save money take the tank disassembled 2 bolts up top one under seat remove pump and lock let them know there was recently fuel in there so it can be properly drained and masked for paint.
My apologies if I offeneded anyone
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get the guards, make sure it covers all your concerns, if they do, get some clear touch up from the automotive store, or a white touch up, and cover the bare metal for protection. that should address most of your concerns, and look good afterward. Ski
If you go this route do both touch ups paint and clear otherwise you will always be touching that spot up
well it sounds like just touching it up and puttin' on the covers is the way to go then.. It certainly sounds like it will be cheaper, even though that's not a huge concern.

I might have to find a friend with a better brush stroke than me, so to speak.

I appreciate all the input. I'll make sure to get some pics up once I get'r'done.
Hey, the touch up kit isn't bad. Give it a shot and if all else fails, now you know and can let us know:)

Kawasaki Pearl Flat Stardust White

1819 Base
thanks for the additional input guys!
Hey, the touch up kit isn't bad. Give it a shot and if all else fails, now you know and can let us know:)

Kawasaki Pearl Flat Stardust White

1819 Base
I have used the colorrite on a small scratch on my tank, and it looks horrible! I used the base and Pearl Flat White, which is what colorrite recommends. It's not even close to same color of my tank. :thumbdown: I wasted like $30 on the colorrite trash.
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I have used the colorrite on a small scratch on my tank, and it looks horrible! I used the base and Pearl Flat White, which is what colorrite recommends. It's not even close to same color of my tank. :thumbdown: I wasted like $30 on the colorrite trash.
Pictures? And thanks for being the test dummy and sharing the results. Jokes aside, now we know not to get it
what you have to understand is, there is no "touch up" that will look good. any quality autobody or motorcycle refinishing shop will have to paint the ENTIRE TANK to make it look good. most places have their own paint system, and do not want to order from color rite anyway.

your best bet is to buy a set of r&g carbon fibre tank slider/protectors that will go over the area and hide your boo boo. R G Racing Carbon Fibre Tank Sliders to Fit Kawasaki zx6r 2009 2014 Ninja Tank | eBay

but, bashing a guy that has to put his name and reputation on a finished product, because he refuses to cut corners on a repair, when you don't understand what the "correct" repair would be, is not nice.

to start you have to remove the tank, disassemble the tank, and remove ALL THE FUEL AND VAPORS (it will go into a baking booth to cure the finish), then you have: the repair, then the refinish, and finally replacement of the 2 ninja logos, plus paint and materials for repair and refinishing. maybe the shop doesn't do bikes. call your local dealer, ask who they use for refinishing repairs. that will be a good place to start.

those pearl colors are awesome but, they come at a price. that price is, they are expensive to repair correctly.

and for the record, I have the pearl white 13 as well. my race body work was painted a custom pearl white, so I didn't have to buy color rite paint.
Ski
I agree, If the carbon tank sliders will cover it, thats your best bet.

However if you do want to repaint the tank, Get the paint from Kawasaki.
I've got paint from them before, Its pricy but it will match.
You can then take said paint to a shop......
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