I use honda chain lube.. 7 bucks a can... I lube my chain about every 300 miles.. chains last me over 20k miles..... and it does no FLING.. I have never had any luck with waxes.. I have put them on different ways too, heating the chain then putting it on.. and have tried it on a cold chain etc etc.. it always flings...I love the lube..:devious
I don't like the waxes either. I really liked the old bell ray stuff. I'm still not sure of the new super clean, but its not bad for sure. I have also been using Silkolene (sp?) sny lube which seems very good:thumbup
I used to use pj1 black label, but it was so freakin' messy. so far the blue has been treating me very well. not nearly as much fling off. thank you all for your responses. definitely gave me something to think about.