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one shop on youtube got massive gains in hp up top over any other model year, i think it was 34hp altogether. as for top speed, sprockets, chain swap
Yea. And have been called out for there bs a few times in the past. 34hp from velocity tubes lol.
they claimed 309hp out of a gixxer 1k last year

the exaggeration is almost comical
 
I’m new here but I’m baffled as to why people are so upset with a bike that only does a 140mph lol if you did your homework the 24 model has lost a few HP so why not buy a bigger bike and faster bike, I have a friend who has ridden in the TT twice and I asked him to help me set up my suspension and explain why I had an exhaust eliminator on my bike when I got to his place he set my suspension back to factory settings and explained the baffle had been removed from my exhaust which means I needed the eliminator , I asked why he set everything back to factory settings regarding the suspension he said if he did 3 laps on my bike at factory settings and then set the suspension up to suit him he would gain around a second a lap he also pointed out that most tracks don’t have potholes and cow shit all over them , please excuse my spelling.
 
I’m new here but I’m baffled as to why people are so upset with a bike that only does a 140mph lol if you did your homework the 24 model has lost a few HP so why not buy a bigger bike and faster bike, I have a friend who has ridden in the TT twice and I asked him to help me set up my suspension and explain why I had an exhaust eliminator on my bike when I got to his place he set my suspension back to factory settings and explained the baffle had been removed from my exhaust which means I needed the eliminator , I asked why he set everything back to factory settings regarding the suspension he said if he did 3 laps on my bike at factory settings and then set the suspension up to suit him he would gain around a second a lap he also pointed out that most tracks don’t have potholes and cow shit all over them , please excuse my spelling.
Who is upset? Who thinks tracks have potholes and cow shit? Who doesn’t know correctly setup suspension lowers your track time?
 
Incredibly slow isn’t how I would describe it, but I suppose it’s your perception. Every time I get on mine I remind myself it’s just a 600. Never rode an r6. Hear good things about them. Maybe get the zx6 ecu flashed. Check the youtube to see how neutered they are at high rpm
 
i honestly feel that if a 599cc r6 can walk this bike in any situation, then the extra 36cc's are for nothing. I have both bikes, 09 r6r, 24 zx6r. The zx6r is incredibly slow, compared to the other 600s ive ran
Break in matters, big time.
 
I GPS myself today, i was at 150 indicated gps said 141 mph. I wasn't to the point where power cuts but i was very close (usually 153-154 indicated for me) bike is totally stock, but from what i've seen there's not much top speed to be gained without gearing changes? Someone correct me if wrong.

I don't mind too much cause if i wanted top speed i would have gotten a 1k, but 141 mph is a little disappointing, wish it got to 155-160. Oh well tho, the bike gets to triple digits in absolutely no time and is a blast in twisties. Most my riding is 100 mph or under anyways.
 
I GPS myself today, i was at 150 indicated gps said 141 mph. I wasn't to the point where power cuts but i was very close (usually 153-154 indicated for me) bike is totally stock, but from what i've seen there's not much top speed to be gained without gearing changes? Someone correct me if wrong.

I don't mind too much cause if i wanted top speed i would have gotten a 1k, but 141 mph is a little disappointing, wish it got to 155-160. Oh well tho, the bike gets to triple digits in absolutely no time and is a blast in twisties. Most my riding is 100 mph or under anyways.
9mph off. Crazy. I had a 13 that read 16mph off on top end. I thought I had a rocket till I got the draggy device lol

did you happen to notice about when the Speedo started to outrun the gps? My 13 was dead nuts on till 112mph. Then the Speedo started climbing a couple MPH every ten.

my 23 is spot on till 145 then the Speedo just starts climbing and ends up about 5 off. It’s like every bike is just different. You would think with the electronic signal it would just stay what it is. Be off the whole way. I’d need someone smart to explain this to me

RJ? Sounds like your wheelhouse lol
 
The error used to be inconsistent when it was all analog. I remember when the speedo was driven by a cable spun by a worm gear in the front wheel hub. That sort of setup is only accurate over maybe 1/3 of the possible range of motion of the needle in the display. That’s why center sweep is the sweet spot for gauges. Toss out the beginning and the end thirds, or recognize the quality of information goes down.

The factors that affect speedo accuracy in the present world are considerably less than 50+ years ago. Still some there, but not as many.

Using the Hall effect sensors and the rings at the wheel hubs means virtually zero wear and tear. It also means that the numbers of data points is quite large… every gap in the ring gives a blip that is counted, every time it goes past the sensor. No flex in the gear driven cable, no wear in the gears at either end.

The ECU is programmed to process those blips and runs a number of different functions on the data before it spits out a signal to the display. The end result is a smoothed indication of the average wheel speed which should equate to the speed of the bike. Tire size, inflation, tire profile will still impact the number as the programming is open loop and presumes the tires are always within an expected range of dimension.

Accuracy of the displayed # is probably good over 3/4 of the gauge.

If the display were just a digital number I would expect more accuracy. One less conversion to add slop.

As it stands now, the display is programmed to lie.
 
I believe the program to lie is the correct answer. I feel like manufactures like to manipulate that number. I have notice the 1k bikes are even worse. Especially gixxers. I rode a Gixxer 1k recently that would hit 199 and zero chance I was any over 180

But after thinking about this. You may of remembered I posted a photo once of how I was able to mount the sensor on my dual caliper stunt bracket to have a working speed display. . Well at the time. Just testing in the garage I assumed I was good. Turns out when I went to ride it I looked down and my Speedo was at 30mph on my gravel road leading out. By the time I got to the main road where I’d never be over 30ish or so through there it was 60-70 mph. I had to make an adjustable bracket and it was several attempts getting that thing even close to normal. To far away it read to fast. To close it read to slow. The benefit of that though I was finally able to dial it in to exact gps. But once again above 130 (gps speed) it was back to off. So the only thing I can conclude from that is what you said. “Programmed to lie”

I know legally there is a percentage they have to fall in. Favored toward making sure you’re not going a certain percent above displayed speed. But if you read how that rule is technically wrote it’s something like “in the area of legal limits”. I forget the exact wording. But basically saying anything above what you should ever legally be doing. Then who cares. You Shouldn’t be going that fast to even know anyways lol
 
Well at this point it’s not an opinion on the best break in procedure for these. It’s not like your bikes junk. Just robbed some power

And as far as the manual. LAWYERS and LIABILITY. They can’t say. “Buy the bike give it 3 heat cycles then pull out and run the monkey balls off of it”. Or the first kid to die doing that their parents would own Kawasaki. They also have to make that manual relative for a 70 year old experienced seasoned rider and a irresponsible 16 year old who has never rode anything bigger than a crf150

I have seen rode and dyno to many to not know soft break ins kill power. I personally have two new gens right now. Kid bought one and Never took it out of power mode one. Traded it back in for a smaller bike at 250 miles. So I just took it to build a new stunt bike . And I took a one new. Did a few heat cycles. And literally bounced that fucker off the rev limiter doing a rolling burnout for a couple miles up the interstate and it’s the strongest one I have ever had. From zero to 50miles it was never under 10k . They’re like two different bikes. And unfortunately my sons got the fast one lol. It blows me away how much faster the black one is

And I’m a big believer in getting that original oil out as fast as you can. For sure by 100 miles I’m draining that shit and inspecting the filter. And I always find a dirty filter with left over manufacturing debris. The manufacturers even know that’s the best way. But again. They have to cater to dumb cheap people and less people would buy a bike if they was told that.
I gotta say man, reading what you think about how a break in should be done is mind blowing that you go against what a manufactures recommend. There are so many things I feel are wrong and not even logical
 
I gotta say man, reading what you think about how a break in should be done is mind blowing that you go against what a manufactures recommend. There are so many things I feel are wrong and not even logical
I have always done hard break-ins across all my vehicles and always have had great results. We're talking 20+ vehicles that have routinely put down better numbers and have had less mechanical issues than others that followed manufacturer recommendations.

I go in with the understanding that if I loose a motor, or if something goes wrong, I will pony up for the replacement. If warranties are something you're concerned with, follow the manufacturer guidelines and leave your vehicle stock. I personally toss the warranty away when I drive off the lot.... regardless if we're talking about a $10K bike or 6-figue car.

But I encourage people to ignore Scumbag's advice.....I prefer everyone else kill their power and reliability with soft break-ins :ROFLMAO:
 
OP you need to drive my Chevy Bolt with a top speed of 93 for a month then 141 will seem supersonic :cool:

My 2012 CBR600RR was within 1 mph, 2014 ZX6R was 7+ off, 2016 BMW F800GT was within 2 and the 2020 Tracer 900GT was within 2. The CBR when full out felt almost as fast as the ZX6R but the ZX6R had a lot more midrange grunt and in "normal" riding wound up shifting at lower revs. Not surprised the 2024 is down a bit but seems like a good tune should be able to get it back unless they lowered the compression or changed the cams. I never took the CBR or ZX6R to top end, it was more fun for me to have good pace in the corners.
 
I have just run a brand new aprilia Tuareg in as scumbag said,,,advice from two other members on here,,,,,,,, I was shitting it to be honest but still did exactly as I was advised trust him he knows, and who the hell is going to know how you run it in, I only trust a handful of people and he is one of them.
 
Slate, good on you for doing it right. It’s a leap of faith; but you will benefit from that the rest of the time you ride that bike. Unfortunately, until you get to swap seat time with another same model that was done the other way you won’t really know.
 
A friend has the same bike and his whole world is right I can’t bloody wait to blow his bloody doors off even better he’s never been off road on a bike in his life omg this is going to be fun this summer 😜 I was racing crossers as a kid well until 20yo then road bikes but always had an off-road bike in the garage.
 
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