X2. I don’t think we will get a new gen. But the second they announce to us I’m already on the list for the first one to come in the shop. Will probably be the last new 600 I ever buy. But ideally my current gen be my stunt bike and get the newer gen for my riding bike. And hang my 03 on the wall. I’d never sell it. And not just because nobody would buy a 20 year old clapped out stunt bike. But because I love her. She is almost as old as my son and probably has cost me just as much. But it’s hands down the best bike ever made in its class. It’s been totaled out. Twice. Had 2 frames not including the one it was born with . A dozen cages half dozen subframes. And aside from plugs oil and some oil pan mods the motor has never been cracked open. Over 50k miles of very hard riding and it’s smooth as glass 😎😎😎 sort ofDo you think that because it is cheaper heavy parts than the way yamaha went could be one of the reasons the R6 doesnt exist anymore?
Personally I am fine with a little more weight on the bike cause god only knows I could lose more from my gut than kawi could by using lighter more expensive parts.
And if heavier cheap parts mean I get to look forward to new gens of the zx6r than I am happy. I will be very sad the day kawi decides to no longer make it. Only half as sad if they never update it again.
This applies to nearly everyone I know (myself included). I've always thought it was a better trade off to make a bike that was 10-15lb heavier and was a better, more robust and enjoyable street bike than the lightest possible race bike with lights that sport bikes have become. Being able to keep the cost down is a major bonus and keeps the bikes more accessible to a larger audience as well.Personally I am fine with a little more weight on the bike cause god only knows I could lose more from my gut than kawi could by using lighter more expensive parts.
Thanks for a good laugh. There are some folks out there that are fast but many are not, of course I am the exceptionI can't count the number of newer, 'faster' bikes I've passed on track with it and I suck.
Mark
No doubt. I see this in off-road a lot. There is about 50 guys on the planet that can actually get full benefit from todays 450 motocross bikes. And they all race for a factory pro ama team. Yet we sell more 450”s than 250”s. And each and everyone then turns around and buys a 600+ exhaust system updated ecu. You name it. Bling bling. One of my best friends local legend brownie. National champ on a 250. One of the fastest guys I ever ride with and he dang near 50 now. Can literally dust anyone else I know who rides 450”s (aside from a handful of younger pro guys I guess) on a stock 250This applies to nearly everyone I know (myself included). I've always thought it was a better trade off to make a bike that was 10-15lb heavier and was a better, more robust and enjoyable street bike than the lightest possible race bike with lights that sport bikes have become. Being able to keep the cost down is a major bonus and keeps the bikes more accessible to a larger audience as well.
And for all those weekend warriors who claim they need the latest and shiniest bike because they are so fast nothing but the best will do, I say BULLSHIT. My 98 has fork springs and an Ohlins shock on it and is more than competent enough for anyone up to a club level expert, maybe more. I can't count the number of newer, 'faster' bikes I've passed on track with it and I suck.
Mark
Mike Brown? One of a kind. Well John Dowd from Massachusetts is also an iron man.No doubt. I see this in off-road a lot. There is about 50 guys on the planet that can actually get full benefit from todays 450 motocross bikes. And they all race for a factory pro ama team. Yet we sell more 450”s than 250”s. And each and everyone then turns around and buys a 600+ exhaust system updated ecu. You name it. Bling bling. One of my best friends local legend brownie. National champ on a 250. One of the fastest guys I ever ride with and he dang near 50 now. Can literally dust anyone else I know who rides 450”s (aside from a handful of younger pro guys I guess) on a stock 250
we do training here and im constantly preaching. Spend your money on gas and riding gear. Leave the bike stock till you actually need the upgrade. 99% of the kids don’t listen. The 1% actually go on to be decent amateur riders.
Yep. That’s my buddy. We grew up togetherMike Brown? One of a kind. Well John Dowd from Massachusetts is also an iron man.
the local 450 guys looking for more power crack me up. The top pros are trying to alter the power characteristics to fit their style. The local guys more off than on the gas saying they need more power and are a head scratcher.