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Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone knows the standard length of the 2013 zx6r 636 gear shift rod? (Measured up to each lock nut either side).

I require this to then purchase an HM superlite quickshifter.

As I'm not near the bike just now, is the reason why I'm asking.

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Dave
 

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That's Magic buddy! Is that measured between the two lock nuts yeah?

Do you know what size of rod HM sent you? Was it the super lite you went for? If so is it any good yeah?

Thanks for your reply ?
 

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You can't really measure between the two lock nuts because they're adjustable and can change. The most accurate measure would be between the start of the threads on either side of the shift Rod.

Just making sure you take the right measurements. :) I went through this with my triumph...
 

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Yeah I understand what you mean with adjustment. Although HM ask for measurement between two lock nuts with the lock nuts both fully screwed up onto the rod. Either way like you say it can always be adjusted up.

Ah well, it's done now. Just bought the QS from HM, castrol 10w40 power 1 oil, iridium plugs, K&N air filter.

Can't wait to get home and fit it all. I've got a Racefit growler on it too so should sound ace and make riding more fun on it.

FYI - HM recommended NOT to change up from 1st to 2nd all the time without clutch and WOT when using QS. Must be to avoid wearing of gearbox? Dunno...
 

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you might be right about the measurement, I checked what details and gave them thread length also when ordering.
14.5cm.
although it's fixed 15.9, the lock nuts were hard up against it so should be ok.
I have the standard hm qs. but would have got the superlight had it have been available at the time.
Both on this one and the gsxr i put it on straight out the box and no changes needed ever so would say the lite would have been fine.
never had any troubles using it flat out in 1st though.
you might need pcV now. I found it ran rough as to be unrideable with the jerkiness with the exhaust fitted(scorpion - v similar to racefit), then put the k&n on which smoothed it out but still needed the fuel mod to get it running decent.
yeah it'll be hugely more fun and noisy with all that done.
 

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Yeah will soon find out. If I need to change it / buy another rod so be it lol. So has the superlite not been out on the market long? All I know is that it has 3 adjustment settings. It's a standalone unit like yours so no requirement for a PCV. There should be no reason for the bike to run different from standard really. The race fit is cat back so no need for PCV. My one runs perfect with the Racefit and wow you should hear it up the revs, ear bleeder haha!!

Tell me - does your scorpion pipe do away with the silencer box behind the rear wheel? If not get that done and do away with that silly butterfly valve that kwak put in there from standard. Then just remove the mechanical cables. With your scorpion you may require to purchase a straight through link pipe possibly?
 

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Yeah I understand what you mean with adjustment. Although HM ask for measurement between two lock nuts with the lock nuts both fully screwed up onto the rod. Either way like you say it can always be adjusted up.

Ah well, it's done now. Just bought the QS from HM, castrol 10w40 power 1 oil, iridium plugs, K&N air filter.

Can't wait to get home and fit it all. I've got a Racefit growler on it too so should sound ace and make riding more fun on it.

FYI - HM recommended NOT to change up from 1st to 2nd all the time without clutch and WOT when using QS. Must be to avoid wearing of gearbox? Dunno...
This is what I've been told about quick shifters and 1st and 2nd gear. Not sure if it's true but this is how it was explained to me: 1st to 2nd is the "longest" shift of the whole transmission, because the transmission has to shift through the neutral gear. It's basically 2 shifts in one shift. Shifting from 1st to neutral and then neutral to 2nd. This is why most often when a transmission fails, it is 2nd gear. So I would try to stay within that recomendation. Unless you're at a really really tight track, there's not often any reason to even go down into first gear so this shouldn't really be a problem. There's not a single track that I go to that I need to shift down into first gear. First gear is merely a "get the bike going from a dead stop" gear. and if your using a quick shifter for street use, well that's a whole seperate convo on wasted money that could've went to better, more relevant upgrades on the bike. But to each their own Of course :)
 

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Yeah I agree with your theory on the 1st - 2nd gear shifting dude.

Yeah the QS will be getting used for on the road! I can understand why you think it's a waste of money. However once the bike is sold it can be removed and used on another bike.

What other upgrades can you do to a street bike with putting a power commander and pipe on? I did look at the option of buying a PC5 then getting the dyno shift QS. That can wait till I get a litre bike next year though.

Might even keep the kwak and just bung it on the track, who knows lol!

Boys and their toys, you know what like!!!
 

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FYI - HM recommended NOT to change up from 1st to 2nd all the time without clutch and WOT when using QS. Must be to avoid wearing of gearbox? Dunno...
possibly, did you ask them why? I would be interested in hearing what they have to say also
 

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I got the HM Superlite and it's great. I posted a install thread in the DIY section.
 

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ok that 1st to 2nd explanation makes sense to me. on track definitely never used, mainly 2-3-4.
superlite's been out since aug/sep last year abouts
i don't think waste of £$ at all. it's the 1st mod i make, reason being you get a guaranteed advantage and simplification with every gear change whether track or st. Unlike fuel type and suspension mods which are subjective(hard to tell and you soon get used it it and want more) and conditional depending on the use at the time.
re- pcV. I didn't want or plan for one and the qs doesn't relate to it, the exhaust and air filter fitting is what made it run real rough so i was forced to fit the pcV to get it running smoothly. if you get to that stage and need a map mine will do trick if you want. P.C. advise on their faq that you don't need a custom map and a map for a similar setup will suffice.
yeah the scorpion fits into the pre-exhaust. but i removed it and fitted a no-name ebay link pipe.
and baffle is out permanently- disturbing the peace! :crazy: will only put back in if doing distance road riding or on a track with noise restrictions.
 

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Like I said, to each his own. But There's just a lot of misconceptions about quickshifters and their benefits and purposes so I'll chime in.

It's certainly a good mod and I'd have a quickshifter too if expense were not an issue. But a quickshifter's purpose is for FULL THROTTLE clutchless shifting. It's designed to save racers time from having to blip the throttle. Most of them don't (dis)engage the clutch, all they do is stop the cylinders from firing for a fraction of a second to allow you to shift gears. All it does is essentially mimic you blipping the throttle at a faster rate. That's where it benefits racers to take off fractions of a second, by not having to blip the throttle. how many times on the street are you at full throttle high RPMs that a quickshifter makes sense as such an expensive upgrade? I mean sure, it makes riding easier to essentially be able to do clutchless up shifts, but you can do clutchless up shifts without a quickshifter and most quickshifters don't operate the clutch so they don't even save you wear or tear on the transmission, so once again, where's the street benefit vs the cost. Also, as mentioned above, you aren't supposed to use it in 1st to 2nd or on downshifts so your paying hundreds of dollars to do clutchless shifting for only 4 up shifts. Benefit to cost ratio is just too high IMO.

For about the cost of a quickshifter, you can get a brembo master cylinder and upgrade your braking power and adjustability. You take the same rider on the same bike with that upgrade vs a quickshifter, brake upgrade is going to SMOKE the quickshifter upgrade in anything other than a drag race.

But as I said, to each his own!!! Our bikes are our kingdoms, ride em how you want to ride em, put on them what you want to out on em!!!! Just do your best to ride safe and make it home to the peeps that care for you!
 
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