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OK I have a dilemma.

So, I recently put in an order for a 2012 ZX6R. Its my first sport bike since my my EX500 (which i know isnt much of a sport bike haha) And I have spent the last 2 years on a Boulevard M50.

So I felt it was time for an upgrade and choose the ZX6R for many reasons. But the 2 that stick out most is that its 2k less than the GSXR and insurance seems to be 1/3 that of the GSXR.

I did not accept delivery on the bike or finish the loan work up on it yet. So there is still time for me to back out. Now that I know they are coming out with this 636 now I am perplexed which one i should go with. So here are my questions.

How does the 636 engine differ from the 600? More street or track type upgrade? Im not going to be using this for the track AT ALL. Just commuting and joy rides. Just wondering if its getting FURTHER away from being a street bike and getting more designed to be a track bike?

How long (guestimate) do you think the 636 will be available after its revealed in new york? a month? 6 months?

Think insurance will change being that its a 2013 and a higher HP bike? Guessing is fine... Maybe former 636 owners?

Do you think the price will change from the 10,299 for the 2012? Or probably just remain the same?

Am I over analyzing this? Should i just STFU and accept the 2012 and live with it?
 

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Welcome to the site man :D

To answer your question you need to think about your application. I guarantee you will be happy with either bike. Commuting, you will not need that 5-10 hp that a newer/bigger bike may have. 110hp on a bike is MORE than enough to tool you around commuting.

A 636 will be a little more torquey than a 599 due to extra displacement and where the power band is. This just means a little more pull from stoplights and power lower in the gears. Again, not exactly required.

I highly doubt insurance will change between bikes, but I will not say that I am certain.

I love my 09 and couldn't imagine trading it to get a different bike at this point. I will be keeping it my whole life unless something drastic happens. It will be sticking around even if I feel the need to get a liter one day :D:
 

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Thank you for the response!

So basically the 636 is not really too much difference besides the extra power that I will likely not even use? Good to know.

So you have had it for a while. Any new suggestions for a new owner? Anything i should look to replace/upgrade on the bike sooner than others?
 

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Thank you for the response!

So basically the 636 is not really too much difference besides the extra power that I will likely not even use? Good to know.

So you have had it for a while. Any new suggestions for a new owner? Anything i should look to replace/upgrade on the bike sooner than others?
All of these 600cc SS bikes make wayy more power than you will legally need to use on the street. Either one will be much more different than your 500.

09+ are pretty good out of the box. Maybe if you'd like to do a slip on exhaust somewhere along the line as the stock exhaust is really quiet. There are essentially two mufflers on them. Other than that, do some looking around the site in the zx6r or mechanical section and you can see what guys and gals are working on.
 

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One thing to keep in mind also is the 2013 will be an all-new, which MAY/MAY NOT have kinks to be found.
Very true. There have been very few changes to the bikes between 09-12. That's a pretty good sign.
 

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FYI it is not confirmed that it will be a 636. This is just speculation based on the documents released.

The 2013 should be coming out in December according to the fellas at the local dealership who just watched a promo video talking about all the various releases coming out down the line here.

The actual specs won't be released until a few days before they release the bike. But it will definitely be sweet. :D:
 

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Anyone on this site that actually knows anything about the new bike isn't going to be stupid enough to say anything. So, that being said, right now you're talking about a known quantity against an unknown. The launch is just a few days away, I'd wait until then and see what your options are. It's a win/win really, either the new bike is amazing and you get the latest and greatest or it's just a minor upgrade and you save money on the now non-current 2012. Patience.
 

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FYI it is not confirmed that it will be a 636. This is just speculation based on the documents released.

The 2013 should be coming out in December according to the fellas at the local dealership who just watched a promo video talking about all the various releases coming out down the line here.

The actual specs won't be released until a few days before they release the bike. But it will definitely be sweet. :D:
This is good information! Thank you

Provided that I do not want to wait until december and with the fact it is the first year its coming out and there will be kinks to work out. I will likely just accept delivery and get my 2012. IM SO EXCITED :)!
 

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FYI it is not confirmed that it will be a 636. This is just speculation based on the documents released.

The 2013 should be coming out in December according to the fellas at the local dealership who just watched a promo video talking about all the various releases coming out down the line here.

The actual specs won't be released until a few days before they release the bike. But it will definitely be sweet. :D:
The release date is Sept 13th for the 2013 model.
 

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Lol it says "confirm" in the title. I thought this was common knowledge for a little while that they are in fact bringing the 636 back. I don't care though cuz I'm so happy with my 6 :tounge2:
 

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if you get the new 636, you better treat that thing like a goddess. maintain the eff out of it and ride it right.
 

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I would wait for the 2013 to come out, then watch the price of old stock 2012s fall and get a 2012 at a discounted price.
 

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Its your choice ultimately - And to be honest, once you have the bike I don't think it will matter. Here's why I say this;

It will be YOUR bike in no time, and you will love it. Either way, ZX6R or 636, you cannot make the wrong decision, not possible. I have an '11 ZX6R and while I have only been with it for 9 months, I don't even care about what the new bike looks like because I could never imagine getting rid of mine.

Long story short - Choose the one you want, either way you go I don't believe you will ever regret it.
 

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hehehe... ... here's why.
I have a 636 ... And the Sucka growls every time I ride it. It's a bad as mofo. I'm sure you'll like it too. +, it will have 139 crank hp.. Hehehe. :)
 

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Wait for more details on the 2013 636. If you don't like it when it comes out then you'll still be able to pick up that 2012 600, but much cheaper. In the 03-04 model the RR was more track oriented and the R was more street-able, but in the 05-06 model the only real difference was displacement.

Also, I have it from a good source that the new 636 is going to be straight beast mode at least when it comes to peak power output. :eek


2013 Production list from a source Id say is quite accurate.
Guess we'll have to see.

BMW S1000RR 142kW @ 12500 RPM (190.43 HP)
Ducati 848Evo 96kW @ 10000 RPM (128.74 HP)
Ducati 1199 Panigale 135kW @ 10750 RPM (181.03 HP)
Honda CBR1000RR 124.5kW @ 10500 RPM (166.96 HP)
--CBR600RR not listed--
Kawasaki ZX6R (ZX636E - NEW 636?) 96.4kW @ 13500 RPM (129.27 HP):eek:mg
Kawasaki ZX10R 132kW @ 11000 RPM (177.01 HP)
MV Augusta F3 675 94.2kW @ 14400RPM (126.32 HP)
Suzuki GSXR 600/750 89kW @ 12400 RPM (119.35 HP)
Suzuki GSXR 1000 136kW @ 11000 RPM (182.38 HP)
Triumph Daytona 675 92.2 kW @ 12600 RPM (123.64 HP)
Triumph Daytona 675R 94.2kW @ 12500 RPM (126.32 HP)
Yamaha R1 129.4kW @ 11500 RPM (173.53 HP)
 

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Made my decision. Accepted the 2012 ZX6R delivery.

My final decision came down to a few things. I really do not want to buy a bike just be introduced after a redesign. The 2012 is a tried and tested commodity. Not sure about the price change on not only the bike but insurance. So I figured why take the chance?

Here is the bike. (and me)

http://imgur.com//PB36r

Drove it to work today and was in bliss. Thank you all for your info!! One question. It maybe that I am not used to it, but my right wrist/palm hurts like hell from putting my body weight on it.

Will gloves or new grips help with that?
 
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