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2001 zx6r issues after filling with too much oil, help please

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Hi guys, I bought myself a 2001 zx6r a few weeks ago and I noticed while I was out that the oil was low. I topped it up and drove home with no issues. When I got home i checked the bike and l noticed the oil level was a lot higher than it should be (yikes) im guessing the bike was still warm when I filled it. I removed the oil and put fresh back in but 4 days later the bike just doesn’t feel right. It starts and rides as it should but I did smell some sort of burning the day after and now im worried I’ve done some damage. There might be a slight loss of power but with it being a new bike I’m not really sure. Only thing I’ve noticed is theres a lot of white smoke during the start up and the neutral light stays on but very dim if that has anything to do with it. I’m currently using it for work and I don’t want to do anymore damage than I possibly already have so any help would be appreciated
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You flooded your air box with oil. Lift the tank pull the air box out clean all the oil. While you are there stick a new air filter and plugs in it.

how over full we talking here? If the motor isn’t knocking then you prob dint foam it up enough to oil starve. But your crankcase breather tube probably filled the box.
Well top of the line isn’t a crazy amount over. You are checking with bike level right?? . Not ideal to ride it but prob want destroy it (if it’s what I’m thinking is your problem) It’s really hard for me to know how much oil it puked into the air box. It’s only a few bolts tho to Check. Pop the side cover on the tank lift the tank and remove the air box lid. Clean the oil out of the air box and throttle openings as much as you can. Hopfully the filter isn’t to drenched but dap it with a towel. Filters should have oil anyways so prob be fine to reuse the filter.
The smoke is just the oil getting sucked in with the air and mixing with the gas. So it’s not great on your plugs. Everything else I’m sure will recover. If it’s not knocking or rattling then you’re good to go. You’re just basically running two stroke (premix) gas in a four stroke. Prob why it feels underpowered. You could prob keep riding it and it will eventually burn all the puked oil out and stop the smoking. Your plugs should probably be changed soon tho. They may start fowling with all the oil in there.

keep in mind there is a lot of “probably” in that.
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If you're not doing any stunting, the tolerance for an overfill is pretty stupendous. I wouldn't want to go long term +1 quart, but anything less than that is unlikely to have long term impacts. Scumbag is spot on. Cleaning out the air box and swapping the plugs is relatively simple maintenance and something anyone should be able to do at home with simple hand tools..... or you can pay the shop rates (>$100/hr) and wait for them to get around to doing it for you.
There is an old lady lives across from my park entrance who’s husband past away couple years ago and she doesn’t have kids so kind of on her own. Anyways I keep an eye on her. She drives this little Honda and the other day she pulled in when my wife was checking the mail and my wife calls me and says her car was a smoke machine. I went over and brought it over to my garage. She had just went that day and got an oil change. I have a 5 quart drain pan and it filled it up almost 3 times. Evidently the jiffy lube place change her oil but forgot to drain the old oil. And when I say the drain plug was tight that’s a huge understatement. Idk what gorilla installed it but he must of been a big one.
All the symptoms you are describing is from oil puking in the air box. Check and make sure the oil doesn’t have coolant and coolant doesn’t have oil and your temps are staying normal. Very good chance you have no head gasket issues. Like RJ said it takes a decent amount of overfill and riding to start catastrophic damage. The biggest issue is the oil lever is too high and being sloshed around by the crank and foaming it up. Foamy oil want pump and lubricator the upper part of the motor.
so if your oil is clean and staying at the same level. Coolant is clean as staying at the same . Temps low. No ticking or rattling now that you have the oil level fixed you are probably 99% just fine.


with the white smoke at start up does it smell “sweet”. I’d probably check that coolant level asap and make sure it’s not loosing coolant. There is likely hood you do have a leaky gasket and that smoke is coming from burning coolant
but Hopefully
the reason it does the smoking first thing is while it sits there that extra oil in your air box has time to drip and run down into your throttle body openings so on first start up you are burning a bunch of oil with your gas and then as you get going it’s then just mostly burning fuel and air.
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Everything ticks. If the temp light isn’t coming on then you’re good. It’s called a “dummy” light it will only come on when it reaches unsafe temps. If it does you need to shut it down and let it cool. . I can’t remember if your year has a digital read out. Someone in here may. You may scroll through the dash settings and see if one pulls up. To check the coolent tho ya just simply remove the radiator cap make sure it’s still full and stays full. I get my years mixed up till I’m looking at it. 99% sure yours is on the right side below the left clip on. You may have to pull a push pin and lift that side of the dash filler plastic to actually see the cap tho. Then it’s just simply taking it off and looking. Should be full. Your overflow jug should be half full ish. It will have min and max fill lines on it. You can usually get to the overflow jug without lifting the plastics so just seeing that it’s got some would be a decent start. Don’t confuse the overflow with the radiator. If it’s a plastic screw on lid. (Like a soda bottle) then That’s your overflow. The radiator will be aluminum and be more of a wing shape than round and will just turn a half a turn or so to latch. Make sure it’s latched back tight. They can be a little tricky being there a little hard to get your hand down. If it’s not tight it’s gonna steam and leak coolant.

this being a older bike and new to you. It would be a good idea to have a mechanic look it over good. Give it a fresh go over. Coolant flush. Spark plugs,filter, brake pad wear and brake fluid is always a good idea to flush and bleed. Every year is recommend i usually don’t stick to that honestly but least every 2-3 tops on my personal stuff. Check your chain slack. Just a good visible inspection by a guy who works on bikes for a living. It may cost you a little now but that could save you a ton in the future. That or get you a service manual and give it a go yourself. But I’d recommend having it all done first by someone who knows what they are doing and then you be aware of how it is and when you do routine look overs you will notice anything that’s changed or not performing as it was and address those as you get to them.

You never did answer if you are checking the oil window with the bike level and not on the side stand? If it’s full on the stand you are still a decent amount over filled
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You can download the service manual on this site to get an idea if radiator cap location and what needs pulled to access it. If anything. Sorry I just can’t remember I haven’t worked on this year in a while.
Be careful on the ordering. Lots of shops. Me included really hate that. It’s hard to stand by your work when using parts you arnt familiar with or recommend and chances are you want save anything . With that said 99% of everything. Plugs, oil, oil filter. That’s stuff every shop keeps in stock. You could ask the old owner what oil he has been using and maybe just a stick with that I typically like running whatever oil an engine has always ran or whatever quality brand the shop uses will be fine. Now the air filter. That’s something you could research see what you want. I’d honestly stick with oem if you arnt trying to squeeze every ounce of power you can. Oem is going to filter better than a strictly race filter. Some guys love K&n I want use them anymore. I did about 3 days riding at the beach with one and had sand by pass it and the other bike we took had a bcm race filter and it stopped 100% of the sand. So idk. That just scared me away from K&n.
Brake pads. I’d also stick with street or oem. Race pads sound like an upgrade but it’s hard to ride hard enough on public street to get them heated enough to work as well as they should. And they don’t come with much pad life so I’d avoid that. Spark plugs id run ngk cr9e and that’s plugs any motorcycle shop will have on the shelf.
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Awesome. And you prob ended up burning off the majority of the oil. But glad you’re sorted and good to go. A few good reliable fun rides and maybe your wallet will forget about it.
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You should never have to hit the throttle on this 23 to get it to start regardless how cold it is. I’d have a different dealer look it over.
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Oh it’s a 01. I was confusing this with another thread with the guys 23. But yea like riverz said the enrichment is all that should be needed if it’s setup properly

And fyi. For non mechanic people an enrichment knob and choke is the same thing lol.
I’d imagine if a bike came in my shop for anything and I had to hold the throttle to get it to start I’d address it.

once it’s started and warmed up what is your idle set at? Normal running without the enrichment turned on.
Post a picture of your clip ons and dash and we will show you. So you have never turned it on before starting it cold I assume? You’re a mess brother lol.


surly to god they know how to check and change oil. Sit The bike up level wait till the bikes shut Off and sitting there for a few minutes to let all the oil drain back down and just check the level.
lol I’m confused and you are very confused . “Your choke” is what we are trying to explain to you lol. Older carb setups typically use a choke. That is basically a flap “chokes” the air mixture to help it start easier. And later more commonly that lever is an “enrichment”. in LaMans terms does the same thing. Not really but it “enriches” the mixture for cold starting.

it’s like getting from point A TO B. Your just getting there differently rather it’s by choking or enriching

Either one like RJ said if it’s gummed up or cable is not releasing fully after it’s warmed up or turned off or whatever causes a rich condition and isn’t good to run like that. And if it’s on a tiny bit when it shouldn’t be will cause hard starts and other issues like high revs
And your after it’s warmed up idle being 12k is high. That could be cause of several things and resulting in a hard start. A bike not correctly idling will not correctly start. Like if the choke/enricher whatever you have is fully off and the bike is warmed up and idling 900 slightly pulling or engaging that function will cause the bike to idle higher. The more you engage it the higher it idles. That’s why on fi bikes that function is tuned into it and you have two idles. A cold idle and your normal operating temp idle. Cold idle will always be a few hundred rpm higher. Or least should. That helps warm the motor up and get its juices flowing. Ideally you should engage the choke/enricher whatever. Hit the button the bike start and idle high till it’s warmed up. Temps will depend on the amount of time you spend doing that. The you release and ride. You really shouldn’t rev or mess with the throttle when it’s running choked ir enriched. Just let it idle to get to operating temps

That’s what lead RJ to suggest you may have an issue with your choke/enricher not fully engaging.
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So When it’s cold and you have the “choke” on does it idles the same rpm as when it’s warm and the “choke” is off ?

But ya. If they started it and had to use the throttle to get it started that should been something they noticed and addressed if you asked. . But that’s just assuming you ask them to check and make sure everything is fine. Could be they just figure that’s not what you brought it in for and figured you would mention if you wanted them addressed.
I’m anal about stuff like that. I point out everything to the customer so they are aware and can’t say it wasn’t like that before I worked on it. Rather they have me fix it or not is on them. But I at least mention it and let them decide what to do with that info. You would be surprised at the issues most guys ignore and just live with. I have pointed out some pretty crazy stuff and just get the. “Oh I know. It’s fine”.
You want cause any crazy damage. And yes that’s your idle control knob. You should be idling warmed up around 900ish. Slightly higher with the “choke” pulled. At the least warm it up and set the idle correctly. May make your cold start better or worse. You can always adjust it back up if it starts easier that way and just lowered it once it’s warmed if it bothers you. Stunt bikes we are constantly turning that idle up for stunts and slow stuff and back down for riding. So you want hurt anything by playing around with it. I have even reach down and used mine for cruise control lol (I know. Not safe)
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I assumed by his comment he was looking in the sight glass while it was running. If it does have water in the oil and the shop missed that too. You really need to find a new shop. Asap.
Yes RJ is 100% correct. Short runs on any engine is a bad idea. All engine get moisture and if your not running at temp a bit it’s just going to build up

it may be worth keeping a eye on your coolant tho and making sure that’s not dripping. If it’s dripping or you’re getting moisture in your oil instantly after oil changes then you have coolant leaking into your oil. You could do a leak down test. Or have someone do a leak down test.
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We had an issue with the dry sumps on the yxz just starting to pull out of dealership and back in. And they will read over oil if not ran to temps and then smoke like crazy after the first start up. But any motor is the same. Like RJ said They have to be ran or not ran at all. Even my wife here at the park. It’s only a 3 minute ride from our house down to the gate house so I make her go down the road bit. Especially when it’s cold. The cold start and short drive was almost looking like blown head gaskets after just a month or so. Just driving down to the end of the road and back before she goes to gatehouse got rid of all the moisture. The bottom of the oil fill cap was very milky.
No doubt. I personally hate group rides. Gives me anxiety. Especially the groups who tend to ride like me. Or attempt to. I only have 4 guys who I truly enjoy riding with. They have all been there and done that and know how to ride and respect each other. . The worse wreck I have ever personally witnessed was in a group ride in Saint Louis. This kid was trying to impress everyone. Looped out a wheelie wrecked 9 other guys and killed the kid and several ended up in the icu. . AtLeast 4 other bikes ran smack over him. I had a front row seat to it. By the 4th bike he looked like a trash bag of clothes and meat spread out on the road. It turned into a mess. Several guys got charged with different stuff. The cops was just impounding every bike they seen. . I hit the exit and bolted right when it happened. The kid had no gear. His helmet wasn’t secured so it flew off. It was a mess. I think of that every time I see or ride in a group.
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