07 zx6r crank no fire

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thebassmaster2020

Discussion Starter · 10 d ago

As said have 07 zx6r the bike wouldn't go over 50mph so did research and e1 pointed to fuel pump or secondary injectors so went ahead got both installed made sure pump was pumping gas not the pressure but had prime an gas flow then bike wouldn't fire. It fire with startor fluid and die when quit spraying so back to blogs an got crankshaft sensor still no help then got new battery spark plugs an starter relay still nothing so now I have stator rectifier coming this week plus got new power commander thinking maybe would fix an told wouldn't so didn't install but over $1000 an nothing and can't find no one around Elizabeth pa that work on fuel injected bikes so I need help an came across others on here with exact same issues symptoms and will end with up and running with no resolution on how they fixed it plus got brand new plastics I can't put on cause tear apart then back with nothing and siked out what power commander gonna do plus finally nice out and got worst bike fever ever and killing me please any advice help be much appreciated and depending on help would cash app couple dollars for few drinks or whatever. Thanks

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Scorpi0

· #2 · 9 d ago

Not sure why youre changing so many unnecessary parts.

If it runs on starter fluid, then that means everything else is there except fuel.

Do not change the stator or rectifier. Do not install the power commander until u figure out the issue. Or else youre just digging your hole deeper.

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Scorpi0

· #3 · 9 d ago

When u first turn the key ON and press the engine start button, do u hear the fuel pump prime?

Scumbag

· #4 · 9 d ago

Good lord. And rivers thinks my spelling and grammar is bad.

this is the literal definition of throwing parts at a problem. And you would have had better luck randomly pulling parts out of a hat instead of the ones you purchased. Perhaps one would of been a fuel pump lol

Brandon35

· #5 · 9 d ago

Scumbag said:
Good lord. And rivers thinks my spelling and grammar is bad.

this is the literal definition of throwing parts at a problem. And you would have had better luck randomly pulling parts out of a hat instead of the ones you purchased. Perhaps one would of been a fuel pump lol

He stated he put in a nee fuel pump.

OP, before you install anything else, dummy check that you're getting fuel to the cylinders. I dont have a fuel injected bike, but I assume you could pull injectors one at a time and test that they are pushing fuel. You could also bench test them using your battery

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Scumbag

· #6 · 8 d ago

Brandon35 said:
He stated he put in a nee fuel pump.

OP, before you install anything else, dummy check that you're getting fuel to the cylinders. I dont have a fuel injected bike, but I assume you could pull injectors one at a time and test that they are pushing fuel. You could also bench test them using your battery

But see that’s the worse part. Aside from wasted money at throwing parts.

if every single part you stick on it is a 100% guarantee working part then you are ok. The trouble is it never is. So one bad part out of all that shit and now you’re chasing more problems than you start off with.

When someone brings me a non running bike and a list of new shit they already attempted the first thing I do I ignore that list lol. Bikes not running. All those new parts means absolutely nothing to me.
And boy do they get mad when they see the problem you fixed is on that list lol. And it happens more than you would think.

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RJ2112

· #7 · 8 d ago

My dad used to irritate me no end, when he would completely ignore any information that I gave him concerning troubleshooting…….

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Brandon35

· #8 · 8 d ago

RJ2112 said:
My dad used to irritate me no end, when he would completely ignore any information that I gave him concerning troubleshooting…….

My dad and I were working on his mustang one time, he's getting all pissed off because he cant reach the manifold mount nut on the power steering side so he throws the wrench at the wall and walks into the house.

He came back 10 minutes later to the entire exhaust system sitting on the floor. I told him I could fit my hand in there (I was maybe 13/14). Lol.

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thebassmaster2020

Discussion Starter · #9 · 8 d ago

So yes I got new fuel pump that pumps fuel and primes when I turn key on and ignition switch and I've taken injectors off an cleaned em best I could an made sure rails were clear and someone told me injectors could be clogged to hook up battery leads an touch each one to hear pop note I didn't check to see if each one is really spraying fuel nor the pressure from pump being don't have a pressure tester and someone said tps which I doubt being only trying get to start now so any good next steps would be great

RJ2112

· #10 · 8 d ago

thebassmaster2020 said:
So yes I got new fuel pump that pumps fuel and primes when I turn key on and ignition switch and I've taken injectors off an cleaned em best I could an made sure rails were clear and someone told me injectors could be clogged to hook up battery leads an touch each one to hear pop note I didn't check to see if each one is really spraying fuel nor the pressure from pump being don't have a pressure tester and someone said tps which I doubt being only trying get to start now so any good next steps would be great

We’ll all keep picking away at this, until it’s sorted out…..

A suggestion to ease my pain; could you consider using some punctuation?

If it takes me too long to figure out what you mean, I’ll move on to something else.

One of the other things that will pay you dividends for as long as you own this bike, have you already downloaded the shop manual for your bike from this site?

The troubleshooting matrix’s developed by Kawasaki for their mechanics is one of the best diagnostic tools available.

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thebassmaster2020

Discussion Starter · #11 · 8 d ago

So yes I got new fuel pump that pumps fuel, and primes when I turn key on, and ignition switch on. I've taken injectors off cleaned em best I could, made sure rails were clear. Someone told me injectors could be clogged to hook up battery leads, an touch each one to hear pop, note I didn't check to see if each one is spraying fuel, nor checked the pressure from pump being don't have a pressure tester, and someone said maybe tps which I doubt being only trying get to start up first, so any good next steps would be great. Sorry about proper punctuation I graduated 2006 and been in construction field ever since so don't write alot

Scumbag

· #12 · 8 d ago

You could check the pressure without a gauge. Not as precise. But unhook the line point it away from your face and see if it shoots fuel. It should shoot it pretty far. That will give you some sort of idea. If it shoots a really good stream chances are you’re getting correct pressure.

thebassmaster2020

Discussion Starter · #13 · 7 d ago

So tore apart to get to the fuel injectors, put gas tank on well hooked it up to see if had gas coming out injectors, and nothing looks like. But got fuel come out of line when disconnected an turn key to prime. So next task to try anyone?

Brandon35

· #14 · 7 d ago

You need to be sure you're testing the injectors correctly. They need a fuel source which you have, and power to them. If you just turn the key, the injectors do not see power. Run the starter if you are testing the injectors while still connected to the bike's wiring harness.

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Scumbag

· #15 · 7 d ago

I can’t understand what you’re saying. Are you saying You have fuel coming out of the injectors without even cranking? Did you test for pressure?. Did it shoot out or just “run” out?
If English is your first language then do better or we will just be confused. And lord knows I’m awful at spelling and grammar. But shit man. Your confusing

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Brandon35

· #16 · 7 d ago

Scumbag said:
I can’t understand what you’re saying. Are you saying You have fuel coming out of the injectors without even cranking? Did you test for pressure?. Did it shoot out or just “run” out?
If English is your first language then do better or we will just be confused. And lord knows I’m awful at spelling and grammar. But shit man. Your confusing

You're* 💁🏻‍♀️

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Rich T

· #17 · 7 d ago

So it sounds like you have spark and fuel at least to the rail, at some pressure...

Will the bike still go 50 mph? If so, have you tried adding some injector cleaner to the fuel to run thru the injectors, and ride for a day? Not too much, though (just the recommended ratio).

Also, what's the state of your fuel tank and fuel filter? How does it look if you peek inside? If your fuel filter is plugged, that can limit top end for sure. How many miles are on the bike? Has the bike done any extended sitting unused?

I agree with others -- don't change more parts until you have reasonable confidence they are needing to be replaced, or you can just make the mystery deeper.

Your service manual is available here: Master Service Manual Thread | Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R Forum (zx6r.com)

Page 3-110 to 3-116 has a full injector inspection/test. Your secondary injectors come on at 8000 rpm and one third throttle or more -- might that be where you have problems? (If so, those could be plugged, making the injector cleaner ineffective -- the cleaner only works if some fuel is getting thru.)

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Scumbag

· #18 · 7 d ago

Brandon35 said:
You're* 💁🏻‍♀️

I got the first one right lol

Brader

· #19 · 7 d ago

Scumbag said:
I can’t understand what you’re saying. Are you saying You have fuel coming out of the injectors without even cranking? Did you test for pressure?. Did it shoot out or just “run” out?
If English is your first language then do better or we will just be confused. And lord knows I’m awful at spelling and grammar. But shit man. Your confusing

ha ha ha what he is saying is that he removed the injection rail and when turning the key the pressure of the pump disconnected the O-ring that joins the rail and fuel spilled with which we deduce what pressure there is, what obviously he does not know is how to test injectors.
OP, follows the Rich incations.

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thebassmaster2020

Discussion Starter · #20 · 7 d ago

So the bikes been down since October. When turn on it primes and gas comes out of hose when I disconnect from injectors, so took rail off to see if injectors were spraying and turn on and no gas then hit start button thinking maybe only time injectors may spray, and no gas. But rich told me how to test from manual so gonna start reading tonight then work on bike after work. And no rich bike won't fire at all , but only matter of time till she does. Thanks everyone for helping me through this.

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