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post #1 of 22 Old 07-03-2018, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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2013+ scrape bar/12 bar

Hi guys, I'm hoping to have some help finding a good scrape bar or 12 bar for my 2015 zx6r. Many of them that I had looked up requires me to replace the rear half of the subframe as the original half is very weak. Another problem is that I do want run the stock taillights cuz it is a street/stunt bike. I can't seem to find many options. I was hoping that all you 2013+ 636 stunters can post your set up. It will help me make a decision on what to buy.


On a side note, I am not looking to purchase a whole subframe just the rear half to save some cash. Thank you all!
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Not being a stunter..... you could have someone fabricate the same structure as the OEM subframe, out of steel instead of aluminum...... If it bolts to the same points, and has the provisions to mount the OEM lights, etc., it would be a 'clean' install that you could go back to stock with a few bolts. Done right, you could keep all of the plastics in place, too.

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Another thought.... the mounting points for the passenger footpegs have to be fairly stiff to hold the maximum allowed passenger weight, through the most violent maneuver Kawasaki envisioned. That is probably the strongest point that far back on the subframe. It may be possible to build something that bolts on to those four mounting points as a starting place. If you run structure from there all the way back past the tail light, the amount of leverage on those bolt holes would almost certainly result in shearing/stripping of threads if you 12 O clocked it with no other attachment points.

As the swing arm pivot point is hollow, you could use that as a second point for triangulation. That's some of the strongest structure on the whole frame.

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Hey Rj. Man I really love how you are very active in this forum no matter what the subject may be.

From what I have been told by many stunters is that just the aluminum half of the subframe on the 2013+ or maybe even as far back as 2009 zx6rs are complete shit. I understand Kawasakis reason though, it is for weight savings. The other half is VERY strong and there is no need to upgrade that part. I think I have already found out who I will be purchasing the rear half subframe and scrape bar from.

If anyone has any pictures of their scrapebar set up I would greatly appreciate that. Thanks guys!
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We're all on our own journeys to our own destinations. The things we learn along the way only have value if they are shared. I come here to learn. No idea what I may do with that knowledge; that will take care of itself in time. The interesting thing about it is that the bits connect in unexpected ways.

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I will be quite interested in your installation, and am waiting on the videos.
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I plan to get a gopro sometime soon. I will post videos of my progress here. Maybe I'll post a video of all my wrecks
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I can't help much, so I'll post this Jason Britton vid up

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Thank you Jd!
I was looking into getting that subframe and scrape bar but that is way past my budget and that won't allow me to use my stock tail lights. All I'm looking for is a half subframe and scrape bar that will allow me to run the stock taillights.

Jasons bike is ballin' tho! I wish I could afford all those top notch parts lol
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Heres a few updates on how my bike sits as of right 2013+ scrape bar/12 bar-20180620_164444_1530785155152.jpg2013+ scrape bar/12 bar-20180620_164511_1530785185399.jpg2013+ scrape bar/12 bar-20180618_184307_1530785239712.jpg2013+ scrape bar/12 bar-img-20180623-wa0004_1530785208206.jpg2013+ scrape bar/12 bar-20180617_181332_1530785267134.jpg
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Please dont mind the wheelie pic. That was just my 2nd day trying staggered wheelies.
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Lol, that was the first one I looked at. Your color scheme is growing on me. No way to miss that one, in a crowd!

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You know the funny thing is... EVERY STUNTER SAYS LEARNING STAGGERED WHEELIES ARE WAYYYY EASIER....

I thought otherwise. Everytime I would put my left leg on the passenger peg and right foot covering the rear brake, I would never try to wheelie... It always felt so awkward and scary to try to lift the front end up. One day I just decided to try it once. It went up and it felt so easy. Now I truly understand why they say its easier to learn balance point on staggered wheelies. I have hit bp a few times and scared the shit outta me but yes doing staggered wheelies are way more easier to learn. I know it may feel scary at first but trust me its the way to start. I just want to get that out there because I know there are people who are just like me and want to learn how to start doing wheelies.

And yes my color scheme has grew onto me as well. At first I just thought the florescent yellow would not match a red/maroon bike but I really love how everything turned out!

I remember back in the days when I first had my 2010 zx6r and I was such a newb there was a member here who was always wanting to learn 2nd gear wheelies and all. I think his name was thug. I am wondering if he is still in this forum. I would like to get some help or tips on stunting
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Jason is so well spoken, and articulate. An unexpected pleasure to hear him speak about his bike.

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I like the maroon/yellow...think its sweet. I can do 2nd gear wheelies sitting but terrified to try standing for some reason. I did them on dirt bikes and quads no problem so not sure what my problem is.
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I like the maroon/yellow...think its sweet. I can do 2nd gear wheelies sitting but terrified to try standing for some reason. I did them on dirt bikes and quads no problem so not sure what my problem is.
Thank you Joey. At first I painted my bike maroon this was when I was just like you. I loved doing 2nd gear sit downs and was terrified of EVER trying stand ups. After a while I just wanted to see what it was like running a bigger rear sprocket. I was debating on getting a -1/+2 or just go straight to a 60 tooth. It took me a lot of research and then I finally decided to go with something in between. Then I pulled the trigger and got a 54 rear sprocket instead of going all out with a 60 tooth rear. I loved it! I will never go back to the stock sprockets!


Then I noticed how much easier it was to wheelie. I then thought that I would end up going down one day eventually and decided to get a crash cage. I thought it might have looked weird to get a yellow crash cage, but then as I put it on it kind of grew onto me. Shortly after that, I ordered a yellow subcage and powdercoated my rims yellow to match. From there on, I went all out with the stunt build.


One day I decided to try to learn staggered wheelies. I will admit that it feels so awkward at first and I was terrified to clutch it up. I grew some balls and did a few baby hops in the staggered position. I would say that it is not scary after all. It is much easier to wheelie now than a sit down. The best advice I would give to anyone that wants to learn staggered is just try it and believe me, it is way more better and comfortable that a sit down no lie! I was just like everyone else that thought that stand up wheelies aren't for me.

Right now my bike is down. I'm currently waiting for a new chain to come in through the mail and still trying to decide on what scrape bar to get for my bike before I go all out on my next stunt session!
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