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Any of the name brands are good. The new Vortex warmers with digital adjustment are cool, but now Iím using woodcraftís which I really like because of the auto shut off feature. Low temp is useful for racing mainly, but if youíre at a trackday and want to keep your tires on low before lunch because youíre going right out after then itís useful. Single temp I wouldnít like because youíre stuck with no options. I pretty much keep my tires warmed on low or high at all times during the day lately, only turn off if Itís going to be more than 1-1.5 hours between riding. Better to not heat cycle
^This. Except for 1-1.5 hours is nothing. I've heard people talk about "baking" a tire while leaving the warmers on, but I haven't experienced any of that and during race weekends I often leave mine on high for like 3 hours straight. They're nice and hot for my next race then

I like the dual-temp Woodcrafts, but honestly I only use the low setting like 5% of the time maybe. If there is time I'll use the low setting on rain tires. I know it's not needed, and by the end of the warm-up lap they're probably at the same temp as without the warmers, but it gives me more confidence. I guess it's a mental thing...maybe that's why so far I've always had good pace in the rain lol

Other than that I'll sometimes use the low setting if it's really cold in the morning (like in the 40s). I don't want to "shock" the rubber too much and heat it too fast, so I'll put them on low for about half an hour and then turn it to high, so the temperature ramp rate is a bit slower.
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^This. Except for 1-1.5 hours is nothing. I've heard people talk about "baking" a tire while leaving the warmers on, but I haven't experienced any of that and during race weekends I often leave mine on high for like 3 hours straight. They're nice and hot for my next race then

I like the dual-temp Woodcrafts, but honestly I only use the low setting like 5% of the time maybe. If there is time I'll use the low setting on rain tires. I know it's not needed, and by the end of the warm-up lap they're probably at the same temp as without the warmers, but it gives me more confidence. I guess it's a mental thing...maybe that's why so far I've always had good pace in the rain lol

Other than that I'll sometimes use the low setting if it's really cold in the morning (like in the 40s). I don't want to "shock" the rubber too much and heat it too fast, so I'll put them on low for about half an hour and then turn it to high, so the temperature ramp rate is a bit slower.
Cooking the tires makes them lose grip because the oils come out. So no bueno. Also youíre not supposed to run warmers on rain tires

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^This. Except for 1-1.5 hours is nothing. I've heard people talk about "baking" a tire while leaving the warmers on, but I haven't experienced any of that and during race weekends I often leave mine on high for like 3 hours straight. They're nice and hot for my next race then

I like the dual-temp Woodcrafts, but honestly I only use the low setting like 5% of the time maybe. If there is time I'll use the low setting on rain tires. I know it's not needed, and by the end of the warm-up lap they're probably at the same temp as without the warmers, but it gives me more confidence. I guess it's a mental thing...maybe that's why so far I've always had good pace in the rain lol

Other than that I'll sometimes use the low setting if it's really cold in the morning (like in the 40s). I don't want to "shock" the rubber too much and heat it too fast, so I'll put them on low for about half an hour and then turn it to high, so the temperature ramp rate is a bit slower.
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Cooking the tires makes them lose grip because the oils come out. So no bueno. Also youíre not supposed to run warmers on rain tires
I haven't seen any oil come out from any of my tires, ever! Even after leaving them on the warmers for longer periods of time. About the use on rains...thanks...see comment above in bold lol
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Cooking the tires makes them lose grip because the oils come out. So no bueno. Also youíre not supposed to run warmers on rain tires
How are you going to cook something by leaving it at a temperature it's designed to operate at?
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How are you going to cook something by leaving it at a temperature it's designed to operate at?
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Thanks for all the good answers. Sounds to me like single temp will be fine for the time being. Plenty of options in the 250-300$ for new warmers. Unless tested, used ones seem to have lower temps according to Dave Moss.

How about some feedback on generators. The quieter the better. Looking at these:

Westinghouse 2,200/1,800. operating volume 52dB

WEN Super Quiet 2000-Watt 51dB

A-IPower 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Yamaha Powered Gas Inverter Generator 65dB

- Seems like they all measure dB's differently.
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Thanks for all the good answers. Sounds to me like single temp will be fine for the time being. Plenty of options in the 250-300$ for new warmers. Unless tested, used ones seem to have lower temps according to Dave Moss.

How about some feedback on generators. The quieter the better. Looking at these:

Westinghouse 2,200/1,800. operating volume 52dB

WEN Super Quiet 2000-Watt 51dB

A-IPower 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Yamaha Powered Gas Inverter Generator 65dB

- Seems like they all measure dB's differently.
Careful with some of the cheap single temps though. I've had 2 cheapo sets so far and although they're still working, they definitely don't heat as well as my Woodcrafts. Never taken an actual measurement, but I can tell by touching the tires. When I take the woodcraft warmers off and put my hand on the tire it's hot enough that I can't keep it on for more than a couple of seconds. But with my other sets, I can hold my hand on it all day long. Probably easily 20 degrees less if I was to guess.

FYI, I got my Woodcraft dual-temp set used but in pristine condition, since they were only used about 5-6 times for $200.
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So any "quiet" generator recommendations ?

Westinghouse 2,200/1,800. operating volume 52dB

WEN Super Quiet 2000-Watt 51dB

A-IPower 1600W Running / 2000W Peak Yamaha Powered Gas Inverter Generator 65dB

This ones looks easier to transport but not sure about how loud it is:
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I got a Pulsar 2000W inverter generator for $320 and itís been good for 2 years
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Bought a Wen 2000w generator from ebay. On sale for 373$

Wen 56202i
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Cancelled the order. Found an even better deal on amazon for the 2250w model.

wen 56225i . Was on sale for 399 but is back to regular price now.


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Held off on the warmers for more research. CapIt warmers seem the way to go and they have a 3 year warranty.

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Held off on the warmers for more research. CapIt warmers seem the way to go and they have a 3 year warranty.

Someone on here had a set of CapIt for sale a few months back....last I had looked he still had them.
I had almost considered them but found a set of Moto-D dual temp from a local guy.

I think it was under a race bike part out...I'll have to see if I can find the thread
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Held off on the warmers for more research. CapIt warmers seem the way to go and they have a 3 year warranty.

Of course they are. I don't make shitty recommendations.

I had a set I used for 5 years. Probably 30 track days? Who knows how many race weekends. 15, 20? You begin to lose count after awhile. Still worked great when I sold them, but I did want to "freshen up" my equipment. So I sold them while they were still working great (Very minor hot spot on one of them) to a friend that wanted to have a back up set of warmers, and bought the exact same ones as my replacement set.

You don't need multi temp selection. You don't need half the shit they tell you that you need. Those warmers are everything you need and nothing you don't.
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Had a coupon code from Motovation so I decided to take a risk and ordered some Maxem tire warmers. I contacted the company and they were quick to respond and answer my questions and concerns. They also have a 3 year warranty. I've seen them around the MotoAmerica paddock so I'll see how it goes.

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