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Up until this year when I moved to the east coast, I don't recall ever seeing any kids at racing events, and barely any at track days. I think I saw maybe like 1-2 at a track day a while back, that were maybe around 14-16 or so...but I really don't recall anyone specifically.

So far this year I've raced with several kids ranging from about 11 to 15 in age. ALL of them faster! It is a whole different world of humility when you're out there pushing 100% and being past by kids that are less than half your age like you're barely moving. Thankfully, I got rid of the ego and unrealistic expectations long ago so this doesn't bother me at all. It is also pretty damn cool and exciting to see in my opinion because I strongly believe some of these kids are going to be the future of American road racing and at some point later on I'll be the guy waiting in line at a table to get an autograph at a professional racing event.

Here's an example with a couple of pics from last weekend at NJMP. That is Tyler Scott. He's 12 and he rides an NSF250 (basically a stock Moto 3 bike, so it's light and small like a Moto 3 bike but only puts out about 40-42 hp). In the first pic he's not out in the distance, he's almost right next to me...he's just that small! lol He races that little bike against SV650s in the lightweight classes, so he's at about half the power of everyone else, yet he still wins. His fastest lap there would've put him in 4th in the qualifying for the MotoAmerica twins for this weekend! In October he'll be going to Europe to try out for the Redbull Rookies Cup. Hope he makes it! If he does, I'm gonna have to start watching those races too.
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Just goes to show, it ain't the size of the wand....... Very cool.

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My first trip to Barber (wow, what a track)
There was a young lady 11 who not only passed me in a corner but 5 others in one corner.
Then passed me between two other corners on a straight, while I was getting on the gas she never got off running flat out.

Met her back in the pits. The conversation went like this.
Young lady, you sure do put a hurting on an old man's ego. Passing me like that on a 300cc bike.
Her reply was no sir, it's not a 300cc bike it's a 125.

Young lady, that didn't help.

How long you been riding on the track, 4 years. (Just about half her life)

Keep it up, your doing great. Yes sir was the reply.

She didn't weigh 60 pounds, of course had no fear about getting hurt.
Worst case, dad would fix it and she would do school from home.
She hadn't experienced the pain for recover. Cost of the Dr's or bike repair.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
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My first trip to Barber (wow, what a track)
There was a young lady 11 who not only passed me in a corner but 5 others in one corner.
Then passed me between two other corners on a straight, while I was getting on the gas she never got off running flat out.

Met her back in the pits. The conversation went like this.
Young lady, you sure do put a hurting on an old man's ego. Passing me like that on a 300cc bike.
Her reply was no sir, it's not a 300cc bike it's a 125.

Young lady, that didn't help.

How long you been riding on the track, 4 years. (Just about half her life)

Keep it up, your doing great. Yes sir was the reply.

She didn't weigh 60 pounds, of course had no fear about getting hurt.
Worst case, dad would fix it and she would do school from home.
She hadn't experienced the pain for recover. Cost of the Dr's or bike repair.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
I'm guessing you're talking about Kayla Yaakov? If so, then yeah she's among the collective kids that I'm talking about. I've raced with her at VIR in the 2-hour endurance race. I beat her, but sadly not the way it should've been. She would've lapped me multiple times had she not crashed on the 3rd lap and destroyed her bike. She was also on an NSF250 then, but she also has a 125 2-stroke. Tyler, the kid in the pictures above, is on average 2-3 seconds faster than her, depending on the track when I've seen them race together.
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My first trip to Barber (wow, what a track)
There was a young lady 11 who not only passed me in a corner but 5 others in one corner.
Then passed me between two other corners on a straight, while I was getting on the gas she never got off running flat out.

Met her back in the pits. The conversation went like this.
Young lady, you sure do put a hurting on an old man's ego. Passing me like that on a 300cc bike.
Her reply was no sir, it's not a 300cc bike it's a 125.

Young lady, that didn't help.

How long you been riding on the track, 4 years. (Just about half her life)

Keep it up, your doing great. Yes sir was the reply.

She didn't weigh 60 pounds, of course had no fear about getting hurt.
Worst case, dad would fix it and she would do school from home.
She hadn't experienced the pain for recover. Cost of the Dr's or bike repair.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Also, for the record...those nsf250 or nsr125 (2-strokes) are both faster than a ninja 300. They're about the same power, maybe 1-2 hp more, but they weigh about 150 lbs less. So hopefully that makes you feel a bit better about yourself
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^^^not to mention the weight penalty, for being an adult, lol.

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^^^not to mention the weight penalty, for being an adult, lol.
Lol yep...fun fact. He + his bike weigh about 260-270 lbs. Me + my bike are about 560-570 lbs. More than double, and he still has about 3-4 hp more than I do lol

But that's why those bikes aren't allowed in our race classes and he has to race against SV's. We're often on track at the same time but only because they group the Lightweights (SV650, FZ07, etc) at the same time as us usually. They start in the first wave, we start about 10-15 seconds later in the 2nd wave.

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Yes Kayla is fast and has a great personality. Think Scott is the kid Iíve seen her race with several times. Sometimes he beat her and sometimes not. Kayla is very fast and fearless but is also smart. Watched her at GNF last year passing lots of folks particularly going into 6 (hairpin). However she didnít just throw it in and try to pass as many as possible but rather would size up the pose in front and not stuff it besides folks who were perhaps not using as good a line as they could have x ie unpredictable so she was patient or about as it gets in racing. Got photos of her highsiding in 17, took them by for her dad the next morning. She was in her leathers throwing the football with some other kids. When she found out I had copies on my phone, she called the kids over to look at her crash! RoadRacingWorld published the pics in February I think. She was wearing an airbag vest and it worked like it should have, moment cord was yanked it inflated. I remember Garrett Gerloff when he was about her age. Seems like there are more kids now than a few years ago. Can remember WERA minis races where it was just a kid and his dad - that was fun as the kid seemed to make a move on the last lap to beat his dad after swapping back and fourth but not always.
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Yes it was Kayla Yaakov.



For the record, I'm 6' 4" running 245 without gear.
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Age may have something to do with riding. When I was younger I didnít give a .... about what ifs. Iím older now body has already been through hell and takes longer to heal.
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Smaller bodies have less kinetic energy.... they bounce more readily. Since they are smaller, with a higher ratio of bone to mass it's less likely they'll break a bone as readily. Add in healing faster, and you have a recipe for omnipotence. Complete faith in your instructors, too. Parents NEVER lead their children astray, do they?

This is why most world class athletes, musicians, etc. start at such an early age. 4-5 years old is not too young to learn incredibly complex things.
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Smaller bodies have less kinetic energy.... they bounce more readily. Since they are smaller, with a higher ratio of bone to mass it's less likely they'll break a bone as readily. Add in healing faster, and you have a recipe for omnipotence. Complete faith in your instructors, too. Parents NEVER lead their children astray, do they?

This is why most world class athletes, musicians, etc. start at such an early age. 4-5 years old is not too young to learn incredibly complex things.
Last line reminds me of kids teaching parents technology.
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Last line reminds me of kids teaching parents technology.
True for many, except I started in computers around 1978.
Have worked for all the major companies, next week will be taking courses on some bacnet automation equipment.

Not only do I use the magic boxes but know how to fix them or at least what makes them work, unlike my children.
Continued to be amazed when they forget my tech suggestions are informed, yet there ignored. Still costs them money and I just shake my head.

Ya, I remember the days I was invincible and death far removed from my life.
I keep loosing friends, so plan on enjoying the time I've got.
Only two track days left this year for me at least. I'm bummed.
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Thanks to jimundascores for fixing the picture I had with Kayla.
Very nice young lady.
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