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Tire thread - the sticky stuff. Hypersport and Track.

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#1 ·
:dowhat Wow. There hasn't been a tire thread in some time. I've heard no feedback as of recent on Q3+'S, Q4's, R11's or whatever new sticky stuff is out there. I have some B-Stone RS10's I'm throwing on my bike but looking to change to slicks.... (or whatever?) so what you runnin' out there? Reviews welcome :roll:.Tell me what you've got to say. [ I mean, it's not like us mortals can really push them to their limits anyway right?...]
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#4 ·
That last sentence is so absolutely 100% true. Are any of us really being held up because our choice of tyre isn't able to cope with our other worldly talent? Especially road riders & I bet even a large percentage of track riders .

I remember Broc Parkes speaking after a FP session at the Philip Island MotoGP when he got a ride on the Tech 3 M1...he said he wasn't pushing hard enough to even make a comment on tyre performance.

For what it's worth I always fit Bridgestone RS 10's because they look good.[emoji16]


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#6 ·
Lawanda would just tell you to go "git summa dem sticky tiiires" and you'd all bow to her and go buy Shinko smoke bombs. :O

I miss Lawanda.....
 
#7 · (Edited)
Sport rubber is so good these days it is hard to go wrong with most any of the major brands. For me they all provide more than enough grip for spirited street riding. For me the difference comes down to feel, feedback and how much confidence they inspire during cornering at deep lean angles.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I'm running the Q3+, now I'm not really that fast, have done 5/6 track days total and I'm running in the middle of I group.
The Q3 plus has had really good life, my bike serves as a track bike and a commuter. I can get a couple track days and around 3000 miles it seems.
I did wear out a front at NYST this weekend. I did a two day on a track that is a heavy left hand turning track. The tire had about 1500 miles on it before the track, and I think I had around 140 miles at the track on it from this weekend (plus 1 or 2 other days, I can't remember). I could probably get another 500+ in commuting out of it...or riding a day on a right hand track. I have not had these tires slide out on me (except when it was a 50 degree day). I definitely am not good enough to push these tires to their limit, I will be trying the Q4 next though just for shits and giggles.

By the way I was talking with a guy riding Advanced this weekend, he was on a GSXR 600 running the Q3+, based on his lap times he was also pretty damn fast. He ran them without tire warmers as well, just let a one lap warm up put some heat into them.
 
#20 ·
Yo! Also running the Q3+, and also from the Northeast. I've done three track days (1 NYST, 2 NJMP Thunderbolt) and have put on about 200 commuter miles. Running mid-intermediate, people more experienced than me seem to think I have 2-3 track days left. That said, my last day was in scorching heat at NJMP and I think I did more than a day's worth of damage.

Are you planning on commuting a lot on the Q4? If so, I'm really curious how they hold up, so keep me posted. I'd like to try them, but I live in NYC and work in North Jersey so if they can't hold up for a couple thousand commuter miles I feel like they are a bad investment.

Cheers man, see you at the track.
 
#10 ·
The Dunlops are the cheapest. The R10s are sticky as FUCK, but don't last long at all, even at slower pace. I imagine the R11 is similar but no idea. RS ones are the street version. The R is the race version, even though they're all DOT rated. Pretty much exactly like the Pirelli Supercorsa SC (race) vs the SP (street). Totally different rubber compound. Haven't kept up on Michelins, so no idea what their tires are even called at this point lol

All in all, a bunch of blah blah blah....just get some Pirellis and call it good :D
 
#11 · (Edited)
Just about every ZX6 guy down here runs Pirelli's.. I went from Dunlop GPA DOTs, to a set of R10's that got worn out real fast on the rough Texas tracks down here.

Was very impressed with the S21s if anyone wants to skip warmers/still ride street occasionally. After Tally, Barber x2, and a couple open track days at my home track (MSRH) they still had a shit ton of tread on them until I sold the bike to HOE.
 
#12 ·
Currently on RS10s
So far been great on the street
What little stuff I have thrown at them held fine here in Oklahoma
Just ordered some Pirelli SC2 V2 for the track
Sourcing another set of wheels now for those Pirellis

For me its about the deal that you can get
Old old former CMRA racer...not stupid fast by any means but ride ok
RS10's were only $225 new last year
SC2 V2 were only $310 new this year
 
#15 ·
Just for future reference for myself and im sure some others, where are you getting SC2s for $310? 180/60 ? And is that shipped? Sorry for the 3 in one lol

Me myself, I am on SPs for my track bike and last years track Q3s on my street bike. I've been swapping my track tires onto my street bike at the end/beginning of every season when I buy a new set. Strongly considering going with something like a Pilot Road 4-5 next for the zx6r so I can keep the freshly PCd rims looking nice.
 
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#16 ·
I have RS10 on my GSXR. No problem with those. I have S21 on my ZX10 and 636. These tires seem like they just don't wear. I will report back after Sunday on how the S21 did at VIR.
 
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#26 ·
My last track day was back in 2013 if memory serves me well. Was using the R10's and running mid pack advanced group. Never felt the need to switch as the R10's did everything very well and I was getting good deals on them from Stickboy Racing. I could get about two track days at Barber out of the rear but usually had to flip the rear tire about halfway through day two.....not a good practice but I got away with it.

On a different note.....

I have been using the Q3 Plus for street riding but got tired of having to replace them so often. In addition to my ZX6R I have a Ninja 1000 with upgraded suspension which I ride pretty damn hard on the street so I decided to try the Dunlop Roadsmart III for longer tire life. I was shocked to find that I could ride those things as fast as is sane on the street and they provided more grip than I imagined. I was carrying a lot of corner entry speed and running some deep lean angles to keep up with my buddy on his ZX10R. You would have to be taking some pretty serious risk to ride these things past their grip limit on the street. I have 1500 miles on them and they show very little wear and stick better than I imagined an ST tire would. The only thing I have given up is some of the feel and feedback that the Q3 Plus provides. Certainly the Q3 Plus will ultimately provide more grip but these things stick well enough for anything a rider should be doing on public roads and they wear very well.
 
#27 ·
resurrecting this thread.
I did not see much input for Bridgestone R11 Dot. Have anybody had personal experience with those and I would be interested in your opinions.
I need to replace tires, riding with TPM in the upcoming weekend, but they only sell R11's, which I believe are racing tires. I wonder if I'd be heels over head with those as I am in novice group.
 
#33 ·
Pirelli has a relatively new street / track day tire...….Rosso Corsa II. Not to be confused with the regular Rosso, the Rosso Corsa is their premium performance tire just below the Supercorsas.

The Rosso Corsa II uses a dual compound front and a three compound rear. The edge compound is carbon black. Wanted to try them but the Q3 Plus on my ZX6R still have plenty of life left so just for fun I put a set on my Ninja 1000. Very quick turn in and excellent feel and feedback at deep lean angles. At a moderate pace they seemed to be on par with the Q3 Plus but when pushed hard they really shine. The front tire inspires a ton of confidence on corner entry and drive grip is incredible for a street tire. In my humble opinion this is the only tire that I have tried on the street which outperforms the Q3 Plus.....but just by a small margin. They are about 50 bucks more a set. The final assessment will depend on mileage. If they last at least as long as the Q3 Plus they will be my new favorite.
 
#39 ·
Burned off a set of Q4's..............
they had better overall performance that the Q3 or Q3+...but lasted less miles.......... technically I ran the same 560ish I usually do over 2 days on track.......... just the tires were long spent and my confidence in them had expired about mile 500
They warm up fast and stick super well-

GPA's........ without warmers..... take longer to warm up that Q3 or Q4, but aren't terrible either.......... they do last longer that is for sure, grip feels better but I also was not out there trying to set lap records with them

Since $339 is about what Q4's run.......... I would get the GPA's............ but that is my opinion... just run them hard enough for a lap or two to get heat in them before going balls out........
 
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