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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Frozen hell of the north
I Ride: 97k '07 ZZR600, 2014 Ninja 300, 37k 89 FZR400 racebike, 56k 06 ZX6R track only, 21k 97 ZX6R F model
S21's are relatively flat profiled, much like sport touring tires........ probably close to the same profile of your PP2CT
Q4's and Q3+'s are very triangulated
The Pilot road series will be flatter yet....... they are sport touring tires
the more triangulated the easier to lean and the bigger the contact patch at full lean........but there are trade offs and negatives for average joeschmo legal (mostly legal) street riding --- and you may well never be able to use all that max lean (60*+ on Q4's) on the street and thus never utilize its biggest strength......... max lean angle contact patch grip!
the flatter profiles will have bigger straight line contact patch and big contact patches at moderate lean angles (up to about 30*)but it will get smaller and smaller the further you lean and you may well find the limit at sub 50* and on some tires sub 45*
So the problem lies in.....
~how do you ride most the time
~where do you want it to work the best
~how much are you willing to sacrifice and in what areas (cost, tread life, traction at lean, traction at the track, straighline etc...)
~ it is always some compromise......and the pains one goes to find the right set for themself is generally worth it.... but short lived as manufacturers change models and profiles and compounds/belt tension etc.... like the rabbits fuck and produce more rabbits.....
If you are one to never want chicken strips, buy the flatest profile sport touring tire and you can reach the edge of the tires around 40* lean angle.......easy peasy...great for those kickstand events to brag about the riding prowess and how great one is......
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