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post #31 of 54 Old 05-22-2018, 09:38 PM Thread Starter
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@Gawernator no I'm using the clutch every time, and it's random and only from 1 to 2. Dealer said due to the extra space between those gears and Neutral. I guess I'm just torn between the Avon being known for higher mileage and the Pirelli being best of both for the price.

@RJ2112 When you say "tread blocks" are you referring to the chunks of tread/the tread pattern? I've heard they last longer but are really hard and don't grip as well in the rain/below 70*, and that they're great...I do go quite fast AND need the grip for the rare occasion I decide I need to "shit and get"

@SideWinder I honestly haven't even plugged my phone into the computer in months, they're all going on Insta. BUT I guess I could try to post some on here eventually XD


Kinda sounds like if the Avon are less grippy than the Pirelli then I may stick to the grip lol. And sticky tires are probably better for tricks seeing as I'm getting somewhat more at ease with testing my clutch-up ability/learning.
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post #32 of 54 Old 05-22-2018, 11:48 PM
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All of the hypersport tires have MORE than enough grip for street riding.

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I try and avoid stating numbers that are incriminating on public forums. You're not saying anything unusual, for me. I whack the throttle to the stop and run it through a number of gears to red line, every ride. I see the shift light flash at least once a week.

I ride down to 35°F, every year. I am on the bike riding in every month.

I haven't had any problems with tire slipping or skidding with the Avons. Because the tread is physically thicker on the tire carcass, it can wiggle a bit, if you run them at lower pressure.

I run them at 36/41, & they behave as well as any other tire I have used. They last a lot longer, and are therefore less expensive in time, and materials.

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post #34 of 54 Old 05-25-2018, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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@RJ2112 I didn't realize I was stating incriminating numbers..whoops. Typo? Damn number pad

I actually just had to drop the bike off at the shop for a new rear tire as today when I got to work, I saw steel belts. And unfortunately didn't have the funds/time to wait for a tire to be ordered for much less than the shop charged me for a Angel GT w/ install (don't ask cost). Hoping for it to be done tomorrow, not only because I want to ride and/or have plans after work..but also because it's my only transportation (getting a ride).

Took a pic of the tire, I'll toss it on the gram tonight. And MAYBE post a pic on here of the bike.

Ughh it's been 5 hours and I'm having withdrawals....someone help?
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Whaaaat's up everybody?

Been a couple weeks since I got the Angel GT rear installed and it's been a blast to have so far. I've been getting used to the 636 more and more, between being able to boogie woogie and lean her over, I doubt there will be any chicken strips on these tires when I'm done. A buddy from the shop I bought the bike from owed me for sending some work his way and bought me an Angel GT front tire seeing as I'll need to swap the front by the middle of July.

In other news, not only have I been carefully pushing myself more and more, but I've also been getting used to having a backpack ride along. The 636 has 6300+ miles on her, just did my first DIY oil change since the 1000 mile break-in I paid the dealer to do (as well as check the bike over). I've also been occasionally learning to get the front wheel up a little at lower speeds (talking maybe 2-3 inches up for a second or two), I'm really interested in either building a wheelie bar or finding a local bike shop that offers classes. The latter isn't very probable in my area which sucks because that would be worth the money.

I'm also looking into some new accessories, and debating between a 5-piece tank grip set, a Sena 30K, levers, or saving a bit more for the fuel rails/lines/FPR for my wrx. Any thoughts? I've tested my music on a Sens 20S and it couldn't handle the low frequencies without distorting.
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post #36 of 54 Old 08-12-2018, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys and gals, been busy lately. I'll have 12,000 miles by the end of today on the 636 within 5 months of buying it, had the front wheel up 3-4' as well as the rear, leaned her over far enough to grind the left peg a bit for the first time last week and boy was that an eye opener if you aren't ready for it.

Did my 2nd oil change, had a 3rd rear tire installed recently as well as a 2nd front tire. Starting school in a couple weeks so things may slow down a bit here..maybe. Going to do the 1st valve clearance service in about a month here and DIYing it with a tech from the shop I bought the bike from costing a whopping 12pack and pizza haha.

The weather here in WNY is being bi-polar again with 80+ in the day and 50ish at night. Working on getting the WRX back running with a new FPR soon, and going to have to put mods for the bike on hold. I've settled on a Woolich ECU, AEM UEGO, Scorpion GP CF slip-on and link pipe for power mods for next year. Doing all the tuning myself and we shall see how different she feels.

Hope all is well with my biker peeps! Peace out and have fun!
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Well..lately I've been tracking down/diagnosing a wobble in the handlebars. Pretty sure it's out of spec, and the fact it's sometime joined by a "POP" noise I'm not too happy. Other than the 1/2" of bar end wobble around 45-60MPH (light touch/no holding) and coasting, it seems fine. It's stable in the corners mostly but I have had a couple scenarios where I didn't feel too sure, and today with speed during heavy braking in front, as I applied the rear brakes it started getting loose/squirrelly until you let off rear brakes.

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Hey guys and gals, been busy lately. I'll have 12,000 miles by the end of today on the 636 within 5 months of buying it....
Dang that is impressive.
Mind sharing a few things? OTD price, insurance price & your age. Thanks. I'm looking at a couple 2017 leftovers myself. Almost 2 years old so there's good deals to be had. Keep the rubber side down
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for the street I'm partial to the Michelin Road 4 or 5. My current bike had Road 4GT's on it (should have had Road 4 but dealer put a GT on the front and I matched it). They did great on a 4,100 mile trip last week and don't seem to be flat in the enter even though I did lots of straight miles. Today I fond a nice little mountain road that made me which I had an off road bike!!! It was worse than it looks, the 3rd photo does not show how steep and sharp it was.
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Well..lately I've been tracking down/diagnosing a wobble in the handlebars. Pretty sure it's out of spec, and the fact it's sometime joined by a "POP" noise I'm not too happy. Other than the 1/2" of bar end wobble around 45-60MPH (light touch/no holding) and coasting, it seems fine. It's stable in the corners mostly but I have had a couple scenarios where I didn't feel too sure, and today with speed during heavy braking in front, as I applied the rear brakes it started getting loose/squirrelly until you let off rear brakes.

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Tire pressure, tire wear, steering neck bearing adjustment..... If you were doing wheelies, you could have dented the races. Wheel bearings, torque settings on the front axle........lots of possibilities. Not something to disregard.

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@Distrophe I picked it up for around $10,500 before taxes/gear/parts/etc with 0 miles on it. I'm 26 (purchased when 25), and INS around $125-150/mo (No accidents/tickets). I would recommend grabbing a 2017 if there's no miles on it and the price is right. I would stay away from demo models, or models where the battery/fluids have sat in the machine until it's sold. My bike was on the showroom floor since they got it, had 0 miles, 0 scratches, no battery/fluids (other than brake fluid which I think they changed at delivery).

@PhotoAl I've been using Pirelli Angel GT tires for front and rear, the rears have been holding up to ~8000 miles+/- and I don't baby this bike, I hit redline sometimes once a day, launch it, wheelies, stoppies, rolling endos, gravel roads, grass yards, and maybe 1 burnout so far (they still grip like stockish). I also do mostly highway miles, with 20+ being mostly straight (boring I know) to get anywhere from my house and 20+ back.

As for those hills in your pics, I can see the grade %, I live in valleys myself so I know what to look for in a pic to see the angles.

@RJ2112 I've considered the wheelies to be a possible cause, but the popping isn't constant. Also I don't drop my wheelies EVER, I've never bottomed out the front end doing tricks, only once stopping super quick from a freak light issue at a stoplight. I've still got to check the rear wheel bearing and lift the bike to check the front end for caster issues (movement). We checked the front TQ spec and it was on point. I'll be checking everything in 2000 miles when my valve clearance service is due, I hit 14,000 miles coming home last night.

Everyone should check out my Insta(hoe) to see the bike and keep an eye out as I do post a good amount on there. I've been asked to upload pics here but I don't have pics on my computer just my phone. Go ahead and follow my on the Insta: dillyd636
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I'll checkout the Insta when able. Building an addition in Tahoe. Don't want to use too much data w/o wifi.
Thanks for the input. Ins varies but examples are helpful. I'm 29 w/ 1 ticket in my truck 15 months ago for 10 over in a 65. $8k price "new" & the dealer probably wants close to $10k after markups. Not a demo & I'll check if the fluids are over a year old. I wonder if that's ok since not being ran.

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@Distrophe Ins looks more at accidents first, then speeding tickets and the charge. I also have full coverage w/ some extras at the price I stated. Don't forget you can talk the price down, if a '19 is selling at xxxx price then they better be ready to compensate for that when the bike is over 1 year old and the lack of OE features (QS). I talked my dealer down $500 as the '18 was out and they we're trying to get the same price being KRT labeled)

Oil breaks down after 6 months, so if they don't change the oils at delivery (or include that in the 1st service after break-in) then I'd call them on it or go elsewhere. AND ADD THE 5 YEAR/UNLIMITED MILEAGE EXTENDED WARRANTY, it's great peace of mind when you put the miles I do and ride the way I do, I'll have close to 100k miles after 5 years.
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@Gawernator I keep hearing recommendations for the Pirelli Angel GT tires.

@MizzouRah Let me know how things go for you.

I have ~2500 miles on the OEM Battelax tires currently, they're nice for stock and for a commuter (mostly and currently) I feel like the life is too short for how I've been riding (70 miles round trip for work 5 days/week, mostly 55+mph).


On a side topic, I'm torn between what to do as for exhaust/FC mods. I've been reading @EvilTwin posts about the subject a bit (and tune Subarus myself) but would really like to get a Yoshi R-77 Carbon slip-on and a link-pipe, yet I hear deleting any of the CATs can cause a lean A/F ratio. My dealer says Kawasaki is pretty good about mods as long as they aren't the cause of the failure..SO I'd like to be heard, but if I won't cause damage with the Yoshi R-77 Carbon/link-pipe W/OUT the PCV/Bazzaz...will I regret it 10k miles later this year?


I have a riding buddy who racks up lots of street miles, and works at a bike shop. He runs them, so I tried the Pirelli Angel GT tires, and can say I liked them, they return very favourable tread life, Not an 'A' class trackday tire, but for street use, they are OK; I also ride in the rain and was very pleased with their characteristics. I like them mainly autumn through winter and into early spring. Look at their tread design, no not the Angel/Demon jizz, but their grooves are very deep, so that tells you it handles the wet. This tire has also set world records for greatest miles/@100+ mph/over a single 24-hr period. So they have the mileage, but can run safely a high speeds for long periods. And I would go with them again, but...

On the Bridgestone topic, I love their sport tires, most esp. their Rosso series. These I trust them at the track. But that's most often warm and dry. And even in the cool and damp I trust them. I trust them on the street. If I was as fast as I once was, I'd be on the Supercorsa SP V3. But, I am not as I once was. Oh joy, the old me can save massive amounts on tires

I also like Michelin Pilot Power series very much, too. The one brand I'm not a fan is Dunlop... unless you are running it only on the track. And you have a Dunlop sponsor. I don't like their wet weather abilities; and if you're not a trust-fund baby, their tread life is comparable to a gnat's life span. Now, in all fairness my Dunlop experiences have been on Litre sportbikes: 996S, 900RR, 954RR, R1s & 1000RR. I have not used them on a middle-weight Super Sport bike.

Others may experience vastly differing outcomes, C'st la vie.

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