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post #1 of 17 Old 09-12-2019, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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Nails in the coffin......

I can't help but judge the riders I come across......

If they're in my field of view, I'm critiquing their riding, and comparing that to what I would do in that position. The number of miscues I see has a lot to do with the proximity I will allow.

What kind of gear, material condition of the bike, lane placement, following distance, low speed maneuvering..... All play a part. Behavior on board is orders of magnitude more important to me.

Too many down checks, and I will depart the scene. Usually by slowing down. No matter where, or with who, how much risk I will accept is solely my choice. Same as it is for Racer X.

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As is your right and the dedication to your own safety, this is the way every situtation should be treated!

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Stupid people say stupid things on the internet, so be wary of who those people are. If you solicit advice on the internet, just keep in mind 99% of what you'll receive is not based on fact or science-and likely atleast 95% of it is based on bullshit and bravado regurgitated from some other schlub who also did not experience any of what they claim and are also full of shit. If you don't like my bluntness- too bad. I am not here to please you, so move along, your approval is not desired nor is it needed. So before opening your pie hole and adding more stupidity, perhaps sit back, listen, absorb and learn something. You know that saying, it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
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I never win the drag race across the intersection when the light goes green....

I place my bike for greatest visibility as I approach merge points

Underway, I place the bike to maximize my sightlines

I do not linger in blind spots

I avoid startling other road users.

I never, ever encroach into oncoming lanes with limited sightlines.
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A rider's gear is far less important in my assessment, than behavior. A conscientious rider in shorts and sneakers, riding within their capabilities faces very little additional risk; increased damage is obviously going to occur in the event of any sort of spill..... I know my perspective has changed with every single crash I have had.

Accounting for typical day to day threats, assessing that risk, and accounting for it as any rider sees fit is one of the greatest liberties we have. Highly individual choice. Own it.

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I always use my turn signal while changing lanes on one wheel
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.... as is your right.

I'll be watching from a long ways back.

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Even when the intersection light turns green I wait and look both ways before crossing- even in my 4 wheeled vehicles...... but if it is truly clear, I am always the first one across the intersection and football fields ahead of traffic that was waiting there too... (unless some Tesla driver decides to jump to the electric go pedal...... ;( been seeing more and more and more of those around lately)
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Stupid people say stupid things on the internet, so be wary of who those people are. If you solicit advice on the internet, just keep in mind 99% of what you'll receive is not based on fact or science-and likely atleast 95% of it is based on bullshit and bravado regurgitated from some other schlub who also did not experience any of what they claim and are also full of shit. If you don't like my bluntness- too bad. I am not here to please you, so move along, your approval is not desired nor is it needed. So before opening your pie hole and adding more stupidity, perhaps sit back, listen, absorb and learn something. You know that saying, it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!
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I normally want to have a large 'blocking vehicle' run the gauntlet ahead of me..... I can typically easily afford to let the other vehicle get to the middle of the intersection before I have to launch, and routinely beat them over the line.
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I go so far as to evaluate how long a rider can stay on their pegs, coming to a stop in traffic -- and how many times they put their foot down when they do stop.

A planned event, pretty much don't have to put your foot down at all..... can keep moving enough to maintain balance up to the time the traffic begins to flow. If that's the normal mode, then you've come to a complete stop before you ever need to put your foot down, and have had the time to decide which foot it is you intend to use.

Watching how much of a paddle someone does at a light, is very informative.
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Where a rider chooses to operate their bike -- lane placement..... realizing this is different when lane splitting, using the scrubbed tire tracks of other vehicles to keep your tires clear of debris, avoiding the 'edge traps' on the extreme boundaries of the lanes, particularly the shoulder and fast lanes --- situating your bike to point towards an escape route should the unexpected occur, creating the most visibility by which other operators on the road have the greatest likelihood of seeing you before they paste into the space you're occupying.....

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Case in point, driving my wife to a medical appointment 2.5 hours from our home.... Charlottesville is in the foothills bearing West Virginia. Two lane, rolling country roads, decent elevation changes and fairly good scenery. 45-55 posted limit typical.

Came across a rider on a fairly new Goldwing, who was riding less than a bike length behind a full sized, windowless van. High vis tee shirt, flags fluttering.... And no sightlines at all. Being caught in a situation like that occurs to us all on occasion....... This guy maintained that distance for more than 20 miles. Just. A. Bad. Idea.

I stopped tailgating when I was forced to run over a piece of lumber, way back in 1986.
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I go so far as to evaluate how long a rider can stay on their pegs, coming to a stop in traffic -- and how many times they put their foot down when they do stop.

A planned event, pretty much don't have to put your foot down at all..... can keep moving enough to maintain balance up to the time the traffic begins to flow. If that's the normal mode, then you've come to a complete stop before you ever need to put your foot down, and have had the time to decide which foot it is you intend to use.

Watching how much of a paddle someone does at a light, is very informative.
The paddling thing drives me completely nutters. It demonstrates a lack of low speed practice. Especially during mundane street riding stops.

As Iím coming up to a light, I check my mirrors to ensure no one is tailgating me, and if clear, start dropping gears and downshifting to come to a stop, and lightly ride the rear brake to engage the brake light, and help settle the suspension. When I get into first gear, I grab the front brake Iíve been covering during the whole time, and drag the bike down to 0 mph. I brake hard enough at the very end to compress the front forks. Feet still on the pegs, at this point. When the front end compresses, I get a feel for the balance, and as the front forks uncompress, I finally put a foot down. Often, I have several seconds where my feet are on the pegs, but the bike is 100% stopped.

Itís incredibly satisfying.
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^^ A big part of that balancing, has to do with how far away you are looking. Clear out to the horizon, if at all possible.

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i never win the drag race across the intersection when the light goes green....

I place my bike for greatest visibility as i approach merge points

underway, i place the bike to maximize my sightlines

i do not linger in blind spots

i avoid startling other road users.

I never, ever encroach into oncoming lanes with limited sightlines.
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I don't get it dude.. Life is about JUDGEMENT and constant RISK ASSEMENT when you ride! -Sometimes I don't wave "hi" to peeps riding scooters..<shrug>
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