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post #31 of 66 Old 06-26-2017, 12:17 PM
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LOL here's where you begin mann...


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post #32 of 66 Old 06-26-2017, 12:19 PM
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[QUOTE=alexhope;1508106]LOL here's where you begin mann...




Good grief! I only watched about the first 5 min... I'm at work on lunch. But, some of these people are morons and some of them are idiots! you could see almost every one of these coming!!
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Proof right there.........ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Yes, most of the riders are less than capable but many of the car drivers make many mistakes that cost the motorcyclists dearly.
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Motorcycles are desirable, so a lot of people dream about owning and riding one. But, as with many things in life, if you can just barely afford the initial purchase, it can be difficult to afford to operate.

For example, if you could just barely afford either a car or motorcycle, but could not afford to insure it, would that be a good time in life to be operating that vehicle? Ongoing costs musts be a part of the cost of ownership, in terms of what you can afford.

Most folks look at purchase price, insurance, and gas for motorcycles. I did the same. At a time, I didn't know better. Those on here who speak from experience are trying to share with you the other things that need to be factored into your costs.

In the same way you need insurance because it costs you a lot if you either get tickets or if you get in a wreck without it, riding training is inexpensive compared to A) the cost of even a single avoidable accident and B) the cost of a ticket for not having an endorsement.

The MSF class does teach the basics. You mentioned you don't want bad habits, but teaching yourself to ride is an easy way to get those bad habits ingrained. Additionally, MSF doesn't just teach you how to operate the bike. They'll teach you how to see possible dangers and avoid them. That way, even if someone else is doing something crazy, like not stopping or driving diagonally, you'll have the training to anticipate this, see it happening, and react in a calm and controlled manner.

The road out there is filled with people who, by accident or ignorance, will do something that puts you at risk. MSF training is an affordable way to benefit from others' experience and learn about how/why/where this can happen and how to keep yourself out of it.

So, in the end, it's experience that says, 'You'll be better off if you take the MSF course, in both the short and long run, and it's so important that it should be factored into cost of ownership, not considered a luxury to do later'.
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https://youtu.be/KlOilAyS_to
SHHHHIIIITTTT that 2nd crash was nasty (some mad air time though. sorry military humour), only got 4 vids in before I noped my way out of there
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I noped out after the first crash. I don't have the stomach for that shit man. Watching people die on youtube just ain't my thing.

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Is that seriously a 2 hour and 43 minute video of just motorcycle crashes?? Who watches that?? lol
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OP, everyone starts somewhere.

You have every right to be proud of owning a bike, and learning to ride. It can be done all on your own -- it won't be as effective as having a formally trained instructor giving you the information you need in convenient bite sized chunks, with organized drills to help you identify what's really important; and it will almost certainly end up with you getting some wonky ideas of what works well....... sure worked out that way for me, some 40+ years ago.

There was no such thing as the MSF -- you got on and rode. If you managed to avoid crashing long enough, you were 'experienced'. Things are tougher now..... there's a lot more cars on the road, and not very many places you can learn in the dirt. A lot more bikes with a lot more power, that reach speeds where you can get seriously hurt in very short order.

Just learning how to steer a bike, and use the brakes -- two of the most counter intuitive things that happen, and people F it up ALL THE TIME. Add in dealing with traffic, and most beginners are approaching mental overload.
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Almost run over by ppl not paying attention to the road signs or just being dumb. 1. An older gentleman speeding through the parking lot, through the parking spaces. I stalled it real quick when I heard him coming. Almost tipped over(Kroger) 2. A young lady zooming out of the back way to subway, not paying attention to the stop line on the ground. (walmart) I respect my Aaliyah and know that these 2 wheels can take me to the hospital or to work and I haven't been 3 digits on the speedo and I've started that there is good knowledge to learn there. Hop off.


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How old are you bruh. Gramma gives you Bday money. Your woman decides what you can spend money on. If youre so broke, find a career bro! Forget the bike for now. Or keep going to Walmart to get ran over loser.
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Enjoy your new bike. It's nice. I hope you find a clutch cable in stock somewhere.

I'm sure you'll find some folks to ride with. Just ride your ride. Don't let trying to keep up with the people you're riding with get you into a bad situation. That can be painful.
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Enjoy your new bike. It's nice. I hope you find a clutch cable in stock somewhere.

I'm sure you'll find some folks to ride with. Just ride your ride. Don't let trying to keep up with the people you're riding with get you into a bad situation. That can be painful.
He doesn't have a license.
He doesn't have any practical skills
He has the attitude that everyone else is wrong and he is right
He simply is not mature enough to own a motorcycle responsibly
He doesn't have any money to afford ownership
Did I mention, He has a piss poor attitude and whil claiming to want to learn, he shucks responsibility and makes up excuses and blames everyone else for his inadequacies.....
He will just end up another statistic and another fucktard who cagers see on a "crotch rocket" who remind them daily why they hate motorcycles

What he needs is a swift kick in the ass and some harsh life lessons of reality and to GTFU and accept responsibilty and accept that he doesn't have the means or mentality to own a motorcycle at this time.........not people placating him and trying to shove snowflakes and butterflies up his ass to be his "friend"
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What he needs is a swift kick in the ass and some harsh life lessons of reality and to GTFU and accept responsibilty and accept that he doesn't have the means or mentality to own a motorcycle at this time.........not people placating him and trying to shove snowflakes and butterflies up his ass to be his "friend"
You said it all right there. With an attitude like he has displayed, being a new owner and new member to the forum (like myself), i can say with almost complete certainty that he isnt the type of person that should own a bike at all. His reluctance to accept helpful criticisms of his clearly horrible attack plan for being a rider, and dismissal of anyone's opinion but the ones he wants to hear. It doesnt matter what he does now IMO, thats the type of person he is and its probably going to get him hurt. On or off the bike.

I hope im wrong and that he actually listens to what has already been stated.

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So I mentioned insurance/maintenance cost above. But what about learning to ride?

Yes, other people do things that they shouldn't. It's both easy and cheap to blame them when that happens. That said, almost everything abrupt or uncouth people do in their cars is predictable. Do you know where people are more likely to pull out in front of you or cut you off? Which places are the most likely for an accident to occur? You need to slow down and be more aware in those places.

As for bike handling, if someone cuts you off, can you stop quickly without sliding and/or tipping the bike over? Can you make a sharp turn to avoid someone? Or can you turn well enough at low speeds to simply maneuver in a parking lot without running wide into something? Will you be able to tighten your line without grabbing the brake if someone changes into your lane mid-curve?

Please understand, these aren't things I expect people should know on day 1. These are things the MSF course will help you learn. They'll either teach you or they'll show you how to practice so you have a foundation to build on. Without that, you do risk building bad habits and leaving yourself at increased risk.

Sure, other people may do things they shouldn't. Cars may drive like crazy people. If you have a little bit of training, those things will gradually move from, 'I avoided it, thank goodness' to 'no big deal'. Without training, those calls will be closer, reactions more instinct and less precise, and risk greater.

I'm not saying 'you suck at riding'. I'm saying 'we all suck at riding before we learn'.
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Damn, pretty harsh bashing right here. I doubt he will be back. Or maybe if he does return, it will be to tell all of us to get F.......cked. Tough love never really feels good, does it?
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You all are bending your forks over me, thanks for the advice. Thanks for assuming I ride like an ass.


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