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post #16 of 40 Old 10-28-2019, 01:04 PM
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Iíve had a starter solenoid before that clicked, but still didnít activate the starter. Bad starter solenoids can still click.
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starter solenoid?
clutch safety switch?
not in nuetral?
starter button or wiring from it to the solenoid?
bad starter?
hell it could even be a bad connection on the bottom of the ignition switch itself

tons of easy ways to test most of these and all of it is free.........


you can jump the poles on the solenoid
you can apply direct 12v to the starter itself
you can bypass the clutch safety switch
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I wouldn't trust a mechanic that recommended a rebuild for something that is pretty clearly an electrical issue. Since the bike bump starts OK your problems lie somewhere in the starter system and nowhere else.









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In that case you need to do an oil change. For the price of a jug of oil and filter it is cheap insurance to get the crap out.









Since he may not have been that useful, try jumping the poles on the starter solenoid with a screwdriver. If it starts then your solenoid is bad. If that doesn't appeal to you, take a multimeter and check that you have 12V on the battery side post of the solenoid, then check that you have 12V on the starter side post of the solenoid when the starter button is pushed. If that is OK then I would be checking the starter button itself to be sure it is working properly. Take it apart, clean it and try again.





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I jumped the solenoid. I used a 10mm wrench, and then bottle nose pliers. Nothing. No spark.
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I jumped the solenoid. I used a 10mm wrench, and then bottle nose pliers. Nothing. No spark.
In that case check if there is 12V to the battery side of the solenoid. It sounds like power isn't even getting that far.


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Ok. So I tested the old solenoid. I used the negative from the battery and the positive on the battery first. Registered 13v. Even after trying to turn over. Still no turn over. Remains. 13, 12.9v. I switched the positive to the solenoid. The voltage dropped to 7v. I turned the bike off. Turned it back on. It showed 12.9v. I changed the solenoid. Now it does the same thing. Only difference is after trying to start it, itís at the 12.9v rather than 7v with the old solenoid. Still clicking and not turning over. Halp!


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That's not too far away, I'm close to Elkridge. You need to follow the factory service manual and follow the flow of electrical power. Or if you get ready to lite it on fire, don't, and sell it to me.
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Alright dude. This is a simple circuit that shouldnt have taken this long to figure out.

Im not sure if u know how a solenoid works, but think of it as a valve. U have constant power on one side. When the valve opens, it lets the power pass through to the other side.

Here is your solenoid:



Grab your multimeter. Install the solenoid and hook up the cables/wiring like its supposed to be. But do not connect the cable on the M side.

Check for power at the B terminal. It should read about 12v at all times.

Turn on your key. Press and hold the starter button. Solenoid should click.

Check for power at the M terminal now. What is it?
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I don't think I've ever seen a thread get this long when it's such a simple ass problem.

OP needs a class in basic electrical and how to use a basic tester and multimeter.

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Alright dude. This is a simple circuit that shouldnt have taken this long to figure out.



Im not sure if u know how a solenoid works, but think of it as a valve. U have constant power on one side. When the valve opens, it lets the power pass through to the other side.



Here is your solenoid:







Grab your multimeter. Install the solenoid and hook up the cables/wiring like its supposed to be. But do not connect the cable on the M side.



Check for power at the B terminal. It should read about 12v at all times.



Turn on your key. Press and hold the starter button. Solenoid should click.



Check for power at the M terminal now. What is it?


12.7 V


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Cool. That means your solenoid works.

Now hook up the cable at the M terminal too. This cable basically delivers power from the M terminal to your starter. Make sure the other end of the cable is hooked up to the starter.

Now press and hold the starter button like u did before. Measure the voltage at the starter terminal where the cable connects to it. If its getting 12v but not turning, then your starter is busted.
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O I redid these tests just now. Disconnecting M and testing individually. I donít get a constant 12 there. It only gives 12.7 when the start button is pressed. When I connect the starter end, same thing on starter, no voltage until i apply the start button... Once applied, I get 11.2v on the starter, click, and engine doesnít turn over.


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Bad starter. The solenoid doesnt activate until the start button is pushed
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