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post #1 of 15 Old 09-10-2019, 01:51 PM Thread Starter
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Helmet cleaning and replacement

How many out there actually take the guts out of their helmets and clean them regularly? I have an Arai Corsair V, which disassembles pretty much completely, so it wasnít too bad. Iíve had the helmet for five years and never cleaned it before internally. It definitely made a difference!

While disassembling the helmet I found at least two spots where the manufacturer stated the helmet was to be replaced within five years of first use. How many non-racers (racers can chime in too) actually follow those guidelines?

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I haven't removed the foam from my most recent now approaching 7 year old RF1100..... I've taken the interior liners out and wash them roughly once a year. Shampoo works wonders on them.

It hasn't been involved in an impact, always stored inside my climate controlled house. I don't think it's ability to absorb impact is compromised. Giving thought to a new lid. My XXL long oval makes that process a pita.

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I haven't removed the foam from my most recent now approaching 7 year old RF1100... My XXL long oval makes that process a pita.
Youíre the first person iíve encountered with a larger head than me! Iím XL intermediate oval.
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I have taken the cheek pads/liner out and washed them by hand (it was an Arai RX-Q).

I do replace my helmet about every 5 years as recommended. My current helmet is a Bell Race Star. The next one will probably be a Bell Race Star Flex DLX (https://amzn.to/34C1CXd) since they added speaker pockets.

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Youíre the first person iíve encountered with a larger head than me! Iím XL intermediate oval.
My hat size is 7 & 5/8th. Assuming I have very short hair.

For me, the RF1100 is a very noisy helmet. A lot of wind noise on the bottom edge. Painfully loud at freeway speed, unless I hunch my shoulders to close the gap.

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My hat size is 7 & 5/8th. Assuming I have very short hair.

For me, the RF1100 is a very noisy helmet. A lot of wind noise on the bottom edge. Painfully loud at freeway speed, unless I hunch my shoulders to close the gap.
The Arai Corsair V is painfully loud as well, at least at track speeds and throttles at WFO. Even with my custom ear plugs my ears are ringing the day after a track event. I really wish I knew of a quieter helmet...that still fit as well.
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I'd be happy if they offered oversized pads for the lower edge of the helmet..... the cheek pads are pretty good. The problem for me is from the chin strap back.

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So I decided to wash the pads from my RF-1100, and they obviously needed it. The center portion is beginning to disintegrate, so I decided to see what options I have to snug up thefit, and possibly knock down some of the wind noise.

I can buy 2mm thicker cheek pads, and a 4mm thicker center/top pad/liner.

Looking at the label on the foam, inside the shell of my XXL helmet, it seems to think that the minimum size my noggin should be is 7 & 7/8. Clearly it's designed for a skull that is more rounded than mine, so it's wider than would be ideal for my skull shape.

At $67 for the pad sets and another $20+ for shipping, it's difficult for me to justify the cost.

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Last helmet wa a RF100, not bad, replaced guts once and put it aside after 5 years. Current helmet is Shark Race-R-Pro. My heads a bit too much of a long oval for the helmet but is just endure it. After riding a while I always have two bumps on my forehead and marks on my cheeks but it fits tight and doesn't move around and is reasonable quite. I'll replace it next spring and have been looking around for the next helmet. I just completed a 5,300 mile trip with it which included dropping it off of a table in Lewistown Montana. The RF1100 was bad to fog the visor at cool (for Alabama) temperatures and the Shark is marginally better. Leaving Minot ND it was raining with temps from 48 to 52. Visor kept fogging up and had to ride with it cracked. In the last 14 months I've ridden 20,000 miles and it has been a good helmet. It has good ventilation but at 95 to 100 it is hot everywhere so sweat a lot in it. Probably should wash the pads but haven't. Shark is a great helmet but visors are hard to find and expensive. An internal visor would be very nice. Looking at Aria, RF1200, Ralph and the new carbon fiber AGV modular but not ready to be an old geezer riding a BMW with a modular helmet. Have been hearing some good things about Bell.
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^^^I take issue with modular helmets, because of the hinge systems.

There has to be metallic structure embedded in the shell for the pivots. How much volume of crushable foam is replaced with noncompressable metal? Two thicknesses, roughly the size of quarters?

How about those internal visors? What volume is consumed in the slot that has to ride in? What about the lever, and pivot that controls the placement?

The styrofoam that can be crushed has to either get thicker, or made stiffer to compensate.

All the hardware stuck into the foam...... Mr. Potato head, punk rock edition, within a shell.....
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How many out there actually take the guts out of their helmets and clean them regularly?
I wash the liner and cheek pads regularly on my MX/offroad helmet but that's because it becomes a dirty, smelly mess with all the sweating involved in a dusty, dirty environment. My street helmet doesn't get washed nearly as much because it doesn't get as gross. I've never pulled more than the liner out of a helmet, didn't know you can pull the foam without destroying stuff. I have an old helmet here, maybe I will see how far it can be pulled apart.

I replace them, but not necessarily on a 5 year schedule. The last one was close to 12 years old and was older than I wanted. Part of that time I wasn't riding much so it sat on a shelf indoors. My new helmet will go 5-6 years probably and then be replaced.


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I know I said my Arai says to replace within five years, but I think iím going to use it a bit longer since it only gets used once a month or so for a track day. From what Iíve read the concern is that the protective foam liner degrades over time - whether itís used or not.
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Was developing severe neck pain from a hjc modular helmet that I believe weighed 9lbs- aka bowling ball. Corsair v has been my favorite so far..... not a light helmet, but center focused weight= safer and feels light. I owned a nexx that was mostly cheap carbon fiber- the hollow sound it made when I dropped it 3ft to payment convinced me carbon fiber should never be used for helmets- most are patchworked.... strong material but not meant to take impact. I believe the 5 year shell degrade is "worst case scenario". Leave a guitar in a hot, humid spot and it'll do a number on most materials. The softer internal shell layer I assume is the focus during capability testing. Btw- if anyone happens to own a shoei rf-1000 with the "beard pulling cheek pad material, I'm tempted to "soften" the material possibly with a hard bristled brush but afraid "shag carpet" will be the end result.
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Tried on the AGV carbon fiber modular helmet while at track today. Super lightweight! Fit was good, the cfeekpads were a bit tight but the chin strap as too far back for me and gave me a slight choking feeling. I could wear if necessary but will probably go with a different one. Helmet were on sale at the Cycle Gear track store, will go look again tomorrow. I think the modular CF is lighter than my Shark Race-R-Pro.
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How many out there actually take the guts out of their helmets and clean them regularly? I have an Arai Corsair V, which disassembles pretty much completely, so it wasnít too bad. Iíve had the helmet for five years and never cleaned it before internally. It definitely made a difference!

While disassembling the helmet I found at least two spots where the manufacturer stated the helmet was to be replaced within five years of first use. How many non-racers (racers can chime in too) actually follow those guidelines?
I take my inner pads out to wash them about twice a year, maybe 3 times. Really just depends on how much I sweat in it and once it gets stinky enough that I even I can't bare the smell, then I know it's time lol But I've always washed them at the end of the season, that way it's all nice and clean during the 6 months that it sits on a shelf. I started doing that a while back when I was at tech during a race weekend and the guy grabbed my helmet to check the date on it and about passed out cuz of the smell

As far as replacement, if I was only doing track days and/or street riding, I'd use a helmet longer than what the manufacturer recommends as long as it was still in good shape. Unfortunately, CCS requires that helmets be less than 5 years old so I actually just bought a new one a month ago because both of mine had reached the 5 year mark....despite one of them being barely used since it's my rain/cold weather helmet. Probably wore it about 5-6 times only, it's in excellent shape, but can't use it for racing anymore :/

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