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I'm getting tired of all the local shops charging 100$+ for tire changes with tires brought in off the bike.

Anybody know of any cheaper options that work just as well as the No-Mar products?

This unit would be around 450$. It would pay for itself with 5 changes.

https://www.nomartirechanger.com/Pro...ode=TC-CH100HD


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Nomar’s are good machines.
If you can afford so... I’d step up a level or so.
You’ll also need a balancer 😉
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I have a no mar classic. It does the job well, but...................if I could buy over again I would step it up to an electric.
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8" or 10" arbor press..used simply to break the bead free

30 gallon barrell with some radiator hose split and stuck on top (drill a few holes in the steel barrell and zip tie the raditor hose to the top- never scratch any rim)

10" aluminum tire irons (3)

plastic rim guards (3)
all in for above is maybe tops ($200)

and any of the static balancers available on the market ($80ish)

wheel weights

while I have a pnuematic tire machine and electronic balancer (about $2700)

I use the hand method for every sportbike and most sport touring bike tires and many of the "standards" 16" - 19" work super well, 15" tires are a bit of a PITA.............................. which is well over 200 tire changes a year and I have done it this way for about 4000-4500 tire changes on the same pieces of equipment. With the only thing ever replaced in all those years and tires changed being those plastic rim guards maybe 2 times in 37 years....

I use the pnuematic machine maybe 30 times a year and really only on the touring tires that simply aren't very flexible...... then of course I can also do auto tires on it and have.

nothing at all doing it all by hand.......... 1/3 the investment of a no mar and get it done as fast or faster and takes up far less room!
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I'm getting tired of all the local shops charging 100$+ for tire changes with tires brought in off the bike.
A buddy has the machine you show and it is worth every $. Once you have it you will end up changing tires for everyone in your riding group. Charge them $20 a pop and pay the machine off with few problems while supporting your own habit.

For space savings he put inserts into his garage floor and then can unscrew the mounting bolts and put the machine aside when not in use.


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I use the hand method for every sportbike and most sport touring bike tires and many of the "standards" 16" - 19" work super well, 1
While I know you know your sh!t, I find the 17" radials tough with tire irons. I change all my dirt bike and bias ply street tires with irons and agree they work fine for that, but prefer the machine in OP for the radials.


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I'm getting tired of all the local shops charging 100$+ for tire changes with tires brought in off the bike.

Anybody know of any cheaper options that work just as well as the No-Mar products?

This unit would be around 450$. It would pay for itself with 5 changes.

https://www.nomartirechanger.com/Pro...ode=TC-CH100HD


yes. join track days. changing tires only $20 a pop. plus if you buy tires from them it will be even cheaper than online
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yes. join track days. changing tires only $20 a pop. plus if you buy tires from them it will be even cheaper than online
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Whut?
I don't think he knows you are track day whore #1.

Do they not do tire changes or sales at your track days there ?
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Pass on the no mar and just buy the real deal.

I'd had this for 4 years and it's awesome.

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Whut?
yeah I know, I'm full of shit.
but personally I have very simple bead breaker similar to this


and long spoons as rivers mentioned and primitive balancer. has not gone to a shop for tires over a decade now. buying sophisticated tools won't pay off. too, changing sport bike tires is so easy compared to cruisers any simple tools will do.
still, I change track bike tires at track days.
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yeah I know, I'm full of shit.
but personally I have very simple bead breaker similar to this


and long spoons as rivers mentioned and primitive balancer. has not gone to a shop for tires over a decade now. buying sophisticated tools won't pay off. too, changing sport bike tires is so easy compared to cruisers any simple tools will do.
still, I change track bike tires at track days.
I've been tempted to mount a long lever (2x4) to a garage wall stud, for a bead breaker.

Now that I have access to a fire shop that will mount and balance for $15/rim, it's a tough sell...
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RJ, could you let me know where that is? I need tires on this bike, mismatching is driving me nuts. And I'm noticing a little headshake from the front.
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RJ, could you let me know where that is? I need tires on this bike, mismatching is driving me nuts. And I'm noticing a little headshake from the front.
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If using tire irons is really that simple I'll give it a shot. I'm ordering a static tire balancer, rim protectors and some motion pro irons that also act as a bead breaker. If I'm not happy with the results I'll order a no-mar machine.

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If using tire irons is really that simple I'll give it a shot. I'm ordering a static tire balancer, rim protectors and some motion pro irons that also act as a bead breaker. If I'm not happy with the results I'll order a no-mar machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAKIuSjPXxA
It depends on the tire in my experience. On my supermoto the first set of tires (Pirelli) I put on it went on super easy. The Bridgestones I put on earlier this year were a pain in the balls.

If I ever get super serious about track days, I'm going to at least buy a tire changing head (thing that holds the wheel).


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