Dead battery, 2006 zx636 - ZX6R Forum
 11Likes
  • 1 Post By KawasakiBrad
  • 5 Post By Scorpi0
  • 1 Post By Gawernator
  • 2 Post By ZedExMuse
  • 2 Post By RJ2112
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
Squid
 
Cmsubackword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3
Dead battery, 2006 zx636

I bought my 2006 zx636 from someone, when I got it it had a new stator, rectifier and battery. I left a light on my bike and the battery died. So I charged it (not connected to the bike) on my car. I now now I wasn't supposed to do that but when I used it on my bike it worked and then died so I charged it one more time and was wondering why it died again. I then went and bought. A new battery because I didn't know I needed a trickle charger. But when I put the new battery on it will only starts. Few times before it's dead. I don't thinks it's the stator or recifier because their new. Does anyone know what it could be?
Cmsubackword is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 12:53 PM
Squid
 
KawasakiBrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Stony Plain (West of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Posts: 34

I Ride: 08 ZX10R, 18 ZX6R, 17 Z125
Take it to a shop and get the stator tested. I'll bet that's it.

Just because it's new doesn't guarantee it's functional and/or properly installed.
ZedExMuse likes this.

Anything can kill you. Pick something fun.
kawasakibrad.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeP...s8E9AkGXTpYzeQ
KawasakiBrad is offline  
post #3 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 04:34 PM
Post Master General
 
RJ2112's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bowling Green, VA
Posts: 11,841

I Ride: '09 ZX6R
Download the shop manual for your bike from this site for free. The instructions for troubleshooting charging system problems is very effective, and efficient.

"Basic stuff fellas. Use your head for something other than to break your next fall."
RJ2112 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
Squid
 
Cmsubackword's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 3
@RJ2112 , thank you! Where do I go to find that? I couldn't find it on here.
Cmsubackword is offline  
post #5 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 06:43 PM
Team Green
 
mmattockx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Central Alberta, Canada
Posts: 161
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmsubackword View Post
@RJ2112 , thank you! Where do I go to find that? I couldn't find it on here.
https://www.zx6r.com/service-manuals/

It's on the drop down menus under 'ZX6R Forum'.


Mark

1998 ZX6R
2005 KTM 450EXC
1982 GS1100E
mmattockx is offline  
post #6 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 06:44 PM
Superbike Champion
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 983
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmsubackword View Post
@RJ2112 , thank you! Where do I go to find that? I couldn't find it on here.
https://www.zx6r.com/service-manuals...al-thread.html
Duc995 is online now  
post #7 of 13 Old 01-23-2019, 09:44 PM
Post Master General
 
Scorpi0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: LA, Cali
Posts: 12,157

I Ride: 06 636
Next time your bike is running, measure the voltage at the battery terminals. It should be close to 14 volts.

If not close to 14 volts, then your charging system is busted.

If close to 14 volts, then you probably have parasitic drain even when the bike is off. Theres a test for that too.

Now go do some testing yo!!!
Scorpi0 is online now  
post #8 of 13 Old 01-28-2019, 04:23 AM
Squid
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 95
Sounds similar to a problem I had on my 06, sounds like it isn't charging.

Mine didn't start so put a new battery in it started got 15 miles and died. Took it to a garage they put a new regulator, a spare working stator I had but couldn't find the problem (though do think they were taking the piss and ripping me off), and they eventually found a wire or something that was burnt out probably caused when something like the regulator failed (I can't be more specific as he was so vague about things as he had the bike for weeks).

So while you may have replaced the part that failed it may have caused damage elsewhere.
motorhead13 is offline  
post #9 of 13 Old 01-28-2019, 10:02 AM
MotoGP Champion
 
Gawernator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Brentwood, CA
Posts: 2,891

I Ride: 2015 ZX-6R; 1999 KX125; 2003 YZ450F SM
Garage
You need to test everything and inspect everything. Firstly, if you didn’t see it with your own eyes you can assume the seller was full of shit.
Two, “new” doesn’t mean good. New Chinese garbage part or new GENUINE KAWASAKI? I’ll put money down he replaced with some garbage and not the real deal. Genuine stator and regulator is probably over $300-400+
ZedExMuse likes this.

AFM #725 Thanks to my 2019 Sponsors:
JPH Suspension | AXO Racing | Armour Bodies | | EVLUTION Nutrition | Galfer | Motion Pro | MOTUL | Matrix Racing Concepts | ODI Grips | OGIO | Shorai Inc. | Vortex | Woodcraft | Wicked Audio
http://www.gawerracing.com
Gawernator is offline  
post #10 of 13 Old 01-28-2019, 11:12 AM
World Superbike Champion
 
ZedExMuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,826

I Ride: 2015 30th Anniversary ZX-6R S.E.
There's a time for everything. A time to laugh, a time to cry...


... ... A time to go with an eBay deal, a time to mourn and squeal.
... ... ... A time to score and take a knee, a time for Chinese, and a time for O.E.


And son, the electrical side of a motorcycle is most often the time to stay with in ours case, Kawasaki (O.E.M.). But it's just as true with Honda, Suzuki & Yamaha. I've now owned 3 of the Big Four, and through the school of hard knocks have (almost) always regretted buying an electrical component that wasn't Factory. Now with that said, I've had good luck with some non-OE items, because I bought said item from well know industry firms that ultimately produce products for the Big Four, or are well established in the automotive field.


Do as brothers Scorpi0, Gawernator, RJ, and KawasakiBrad have counselled, download the shop manual, spend the time quite literally chasing down every combination - if need be - to find the culprit. If you look for a 15-min cure, you are bound to plow through a lot of money chasing false-solutions.

You might even try going on bent knee to Rivers, but... before you do that you will need all of your data - names, time duration from install to failure, signs/symptoms, and take copious notes/pictures of your exact situation. In short, DO NOT WASTE THE MAN'S TIME!

If Rivers tells you to do something, follow it to the letter - no substitutions. Don't be afraid to ask Qs, but ask Specific Qs. If you don't like what he tells you and you go off in a different tangent, don't expect his help in the future. He works on bikes for a living - you are not going to find a better resource. But go this route only after you've performed the Trouble Shooting steps in the shop manual first. And again, have taken your notes and snapped your photos. He's a great guy, but he does not suffer fools well.
RJ2112 and Gawernator like this.

C8H10N4O2
ZedExMuse is offline  
post #11 of 13 Old 01-28-2019, 05:41 PM
Post Master General
 
RJ2112's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bowling Green, VA
Posts: 11,841

I Ride: '09 ZX6R
I should mention that the manual doesn't spend a lot of time explaining the settings needed on the multimeter to make the required measurements. It presumes you know what the K Ohms means, compared to Ohms when measuring resistance.... and that you know the difference between ~Volts (AC) and --Volts (DC).

Another area that is very often overlooked by the unsuspecting neophyte electrical troubleshooter...... there are two sides to every circuit. The path from the battery to whatever it is that needs doing, and the return path. There must be a return, for the current to flow. Voltage without current is simply potential, not work. Current times voltage is Watts...... the measure of work.
ZedExMuse and Gawernator like this.

"Basic stuff fellas. Use your head for something other than to break your next fall."
RJ2112 is online now  
post #12 of 13 Old 01-29-2019, 12:10 AM
MotoGP Champion
 
Gawernator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Brentwood, CA
Posts: 2,891

I Ride: 2015 ZX-6R; 1999 KX125; 2003 YZ450F SM
Garage
I have no idea how to test any electrical parts but I know to stick with oem and these guys can always help if you get stuck with the voltmeter

AFM #725 Thanks to my 2019 Sponsors:
JPH Suspension | AXO Racing | Armour Bodies | | EVLUTION Nutrition | Galfer | Motion Pro | MOTUL | Matrix Racing Concepts | ODI Grips | OGIO | Shorai Inc. | Vortex | Woodcraft | Wicked Audio
http://www.gawerracing.com
Gawernator is offline  
post #13 of 13 Old 01-30-2019, 08:56 AM
World Superbike Champion
 
ZedExMuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,826

I Ride: 2015 30th Anniversary ZX-6R S.E.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ2112 View Post
I should mention that the manual doesn't spend a lot of time explaining the settings needed on the multimeter to make the required measurements. It presumes you know what the K Ohms means, compared to Ohms when measuring resistance.... and that you know the difference between ~Volts (AC) and --Volts (DC).

Another area that is very often overlooked by the unsuspecting neophyte electrical troubleshooter...... there are two sides to every circuit. The path from the battery to whatever it is that needs doing, and the return path. There must be a return, for the current to flow. Voltage without current is simply potential, not work. Current times voltage is Watts...... the measure of work.



Cmsubackword, you've saved at least $100 with this post alone. RJ pointed out critical must know data/facts in just a few words.

That's why it is a critical aspect of MC maintenance that you take notes. Often neophytes will tell themselves that they will remember specifics because they don't want to take the time to jot down information. That is simply a fool's path; start making good decisions from the beginning!

Let me put it another way: I have been riding trial/MX since I was in first grade. My dad made me take notes for each specific bike I've owned. I am now in my 50s. I have the Kawasaki PDF of the shop manual on my laptop computer's desktop; I also down loaded the '09 Race Manual - I ride a '15 - because there are specifics in there that are absent from the shop manual. To that I have over a dozen specific papers that I authored on specific applications that are quirky specifics unique to my 636.

For example pulling off F/R wheels from my previous CBR1000RR, R1s, 996S, 954RR, VFR750, etc are essentially the same, each bike's paper had things that made removal/installation just that little bit smoother/less frustrating. And I still reviewed each specific paper for a specific job that I'm doing. Because almost always there is a NOTE: to self, do/do not do, _____ (fill in the blank). And these various hints, reminders & cautions can save one multiples of hours!

At the end, when going to an authority person, such as Rivers, you'll have the exact data when they ask you questions to better help you resolve your problem - and they will ask!

C8H10N4O2
ZedExMuse is offline  
Reply

  ZX6R Forum > ZX6R Forum > Mechanical and Technical

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2006 ZX6R is dead :( sparky337 The ZX6R 37 10-02-2018 07:01 PM
New battery didn't resolve issue! rogal88 The ZX6R 32 09-18-2018 12:28 PM
zx636 2006 model ashday United Kingdom 2 09-01-2018 04:14 PM
Zx636 2006 help! Leep The ZX6R 6 08-04-2018 05:32 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome