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post #16 of 30 Old 10-06-2017, 03:40 AM Thread Starter
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ok so here is the answer guys, i ordered the triple tree from ebay it was cheap and amazing it works forks are straight now. and SO THE TIRE STILL TOUCHES THE EXHAUST PIPES MUFFLER HEADERS. so i realized now that my wheel its straight tbat i need a new muffler header. i saw it on ebay for like 60 bucks right out ofthe same bike so lets see if that works im gonna take the muffler apart today so when it arrives i can see if that fixes the whole problem because the wheel problem is already fixed its straight and all good. i appreciate all of your responses what would i do without yall family. peace ride safe. ill keep in touch once i get header pipes.
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People im just a plumber and a very handy man, i can literally fix anything god created me with a gift to fix shit. i might not be an expert but i come from Cuba, over there we either fix it or fix it without a manual because of necesity and worst over there we dont have all the parts stores like here they have to make it from scratch. so i dont mind checking everything myself because im learning, and when you learn thats the most important journey because i learn every single detail. the guys that are talking so technical i habe no idea wtf you are talking about so maybe im an ignorant that doesnt know what you saying or you are just a dick saying 100000 words to make yourself look knowledgeable. if you want to help me talk clear, i just wanted advice end of the day im still doing it alone in my garage. thanks tho.
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People im just a plumber and a very handy man, i can literally fix anything god created me with a gift to fix shit. i might not be an expert but i come from Cuba, over there we either fix it or fix it without a manual because of necesity and worst over there we dont have all the parts stores like here they have to make it from scratch. so i dont mind checking everything myself because im learning, and when you learn thats the most important journey because i learn every single detail. the guys that are talking so technical i habe no idea wtf you are talking about so maybe im an ignorant that doesnt know what you saying or you are just a dick saying 100000 words to make yourself look knowledgeable. if you want to help me talk clear, i just wanted advice end of the day im still doing it alone in my garage. thanks tho.
I'm confused again.

If you have replaced the triple, the fork tubes are straight, and the wheel is touching the header..... your frame is almost certainly bent. Even if you keep adding good parts on a bad frame, it will not ride straight, and is probably going to be unsafe to ride.

simple enough?
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SBK i understand what you saying but i can only check what my eyes can see, i dony know exact measurements of how this and that has to be positioned, thats why i just go little by little until things click, this is only a first time we learn wiyh experience so after this whole thing i would know what to check for i would knowright on the spot wbats bended and whats not, this way im learning about my bike every detail and hoe everything sbould be positioned. as of now i havent made any mistakes in buying the parts i could see where damaged. the headers i couldnt see that from beginning because wheel was not even straight. so hopefully once i get new headers whole problem solved ill keep yall updated.
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What RJ said is very probable. How could your headers be bent forward? Most likely if your forks were bent backward, the triple tree was bent backward, the header bent forward? Not too probable.........I too spent 30 years building everything under the sun. Logic is logic. Not trying to be a Dick but I think you have a bigger problem. And furthermore, communication is everything. I understand English is your second language and you are probably trying very hard. Proof read your post several times and fix basic errors etc. Good luck.
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I'm confused again.

If you have replaced the triple, the fork tubes are straight, and the wheel is touching the header..... your frame is almost certainly bent. Even if you keep adding good parts on a bad frame, it will not ride straight, and is probably going to be unsafe to ride.

simple enough?
Exactly my thoughts too! This guy's just replacing part by part without actually confirming if it's really bent or not, and ignoring the most important thing, the FRAME!

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SBK i understand what you saying but i can only check what my eyes can see, i dony know exact measurements of how this and that has to be positioned, thats why i just go little by little until things click, this is only a first time we learn wiyh experience so after this whole thing i would know what to check for i would knowright on the spot wbats bended and whats not, this way im learning about my bike every detail and hoe everything sbould be positioned. as of now i havent made any mistakes in buying the parts i could see where damaged. the headers i couldnt see that from beginning because wheel was not even straight. so hopefully once i get new headers whole problem solved ill keep yall updated.
Yeah but even if the bike is new to you, most things are pretty obvious if they're bent or not. You don't need a "like new" condition part to compare to in order to realize. Plus, you're asking for help/advice from the forum, yet you're ignoring what most people are saying that are trying to help you and go out and spend money that may not necessarily need to be spent lol What's the point? I'm totally in support of learning everything about your bike by doing your own work, I do the same too. But why reinvent the wheel and spend more time and money going on the wrong path when there are people here willing to help, and some of us have gone through similar projects like yours.

Maybe post some pictures of the bike as is from multiple angles? It makes zero sense that the headers would be bent forward and that's why your wheel is touching the pipes. If they would be bent, it would be backwards, so there would be a bigger gap than it would be stock...and again...that would be pretty noticeable by looking at it. Can't bend pipes in a nice way unless you do it with a tube bender...a bend from a crash would not look good and it's noticeable.

CHECK YOUR FRAME!! Primarily the front part where the steering stem is.
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It doesn’t take much of a “tweek” to really ruin a frame. I had a bike that I bought used where I couldn’t tell that the frame was bent until I actually rode it at speed on the track - and then it was obvious!
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ok guys im sorry if i sounded like an ignorant, i know you all want to help me. here are some pictures you can see how the wheel is not even on yet and back inside the hole all the way and its already touching the headers. now im gonna send photos of the headers so you can tell me if it was hit or not
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Most likely a bent frame.

Here's another example:

https://www.southbayriders.com/forum.../#post-1786883


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ok guys im sorry if i sounded like an ignorant, i know you all want to help me. here are some pictures you can see how the wheel is not even on yet and back inside the hole all the way and its already touching the headers. now im gonna send photos of the headers so you can tell me if it was hit or not
Those look fine. Not a headers problem. Post a picture from the side slightly higher up so we can see the frame.

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Buttom line is guys that you think that if the wheel touches the headers i have to order a new frame? becsuse i sat on top of the motorcycle looked down like im riding checked in front of the frame and doesntlook bended.
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Buttom line is guys that you think that if the wheel touches the headers i have to order a new frame? becsuse i sat on top of the motorcycle looked down like im riding checked in front of the frame and doesntlook bended.
I would wait until you take the motor out of the frame, to order another one.

You need someone at a frame shop with the proper measurement equipment to tell you if it's bent or not.

If it got hit from the side, the thing is probably twisted some how. The engine acts as a part of the frame, through the motor mounts. Could be the frame is bound up and cannot pop back to where it is supposed to be. (I don't think that is very likely, because you will probably have damage on the motor mounts if that happened.)

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Those look fine. Not a headers problem. Post a picture from the side slightly higher up so we can see the frame.
This, some pics of the frame.
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Steering neck part of the frame is bent. Part the bike out.

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