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post #1 of 9 Old 07-03-2018, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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A* GP PLUS V2 race suit review / new suit break-in tips

Me: 6'1" (73" / 185.4cm) @ 170 lbs (77.11 kgs), slim/athletic profile
Suit: Alpinestars GP PLUS V2 Pro (Black/White/Fluo Red/Fluo Yellow), size 54 (EU) https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/...s-v2-race-suit
MSRP: $1199 (I paid $930/shipped via motocard.com)

edit: by "shipped" I apparently meant shipped PLUS $147.15 in taxes/duties charges per UPS.. DID come on a lengthy trip from Spain tho so...

Didn't see any review threads/posts on this particular suit so thought I'd make my own to include a break-in review and video. I was gonna go custom this time but I didn't read anything new on current custom suit companies and figure i'll make that my next step when im ready to move on from this suit in a couple years. NOTE: the following is purely my $.02.

For break-in, there's a few options I could take...
1) I'll be doing a mix of a good drunken movie night with a hard sleep-in (1 night) when the next day is projected to be nice and warm. When im good and safely sober, i'll soak it in the shower inside and out (with warm NOT HOT water) and go burn a tank of gas while wearing the suit so it's decently dry outside and a humid sweatbox inside. After I get home, i'll rinse the inside and towel dry the outside then proceed to liberally apply good conditioner to the outer leathers (I recommend Lexol or good cowboy boot conditional) and let air dry outside until the inside is decently dry and maybe wear it a bit longer for another movie and a couple beers. Now the full suit should be good and dry but conditioned. This is simply what I like to do.
2) Ignore the above. Maybe wear the suit for an hour around the house (maybe watching a race on TV to get into character) and ultimately wear the suit while dealing with its "growing pains" at a good hot track day as the suit breaks in and apply some conditioner at the end. Done.

If you've never had a NEW 1pc race suit before, you'll read all types of old and new school methods... some are more "right" then others. Cowhide leather will shrink but it's good to conform the leather to your bodily profile ASSUMING YOU BOUGHT A WELL-FITTED SUIT. You want to be sure of your suit size of THAT suit before you buy, so try to sample via cycle stores in your nearby city first before getting the better deals online. In order to keep the structural integrity of the suit, you're gonna wanna make sure you also take care of the leather (hence the conditioner to avoid internal drying and cracking). Honestly, SEAT time is the best way to break it in... your body heat combined with the moisture (sweat) and natural skin oils will do everything you're wanting naturally, but it mostly helps when it's being broken in during the RIDING POSITION. You don't need it to fit and conform like a glove in standing/resting position, you want it to be perfect in RIDING position. The perfect suit will fit like 2nd skin without a bunch of excess leather flapping in the wind causing drag. I also recommend to break in WITH your gear inserts (chest/back protectors), but maybe someone's heard differently?

Feel free to chime in if you have your own customary way of suit break-ins. I know a guy with an Aprilia that buys a new video game with every new suit and plays it on the edge of his couch/seat from start to finish of the game! The suits I've owned that were 2nd hand were originally from guys that were my height/build so they didn't need much of a break in. After a track day I'd thoroughly rinse them off inside and out and let them air-dry before folding up the suit for storage and they always seemed to be fine... still do. Also, I'd love to hear any further advice or if anyone disagrees or has an alternate perspective.

Also, if any readers are female, have you ever worn and been comfortable in men's suits, or strictly female? Asking for a female rider friend that could use a suit.

Again, my $.02.

This post will be updated as updates are available. The suit's been ordered, I'm simply not in the ol US to officially track and review it yet... btw Happy July 4th yall, from the middle east
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Now looking to graduate to a big boy one piece leather suit(all of course for the track). Does this have any kinda liner than can be removed/washed?

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Now looking to graduate to a big boy one piece leather suit(all of course for the track). Does this have any kinda liner than can be removed/washed?
Yeah... except for the one initial "test" ride for break in or just to be more familiar with it, my suits never see the street... jeans and jacket for me.

To answer your question, most of these suits (that i know of) either come with a removable liner or have a microbial inner liner for anti-funkiness after you've spent all day being a human bean burrito of leather-bound sweat lol. Even an older/cheaper suit I have made by Cortech has a liner that I think is removeable, I just have simply sprayed it off and air dried, never removed. There ARE also liners that you can buy but their best benefit is to ease getting in and out of the suit and lets face it... if you have a correctly fitting suit, youre not going to avoid the chicken dance that comes with ingress/egress of said suit lol

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So overall, the suit is great in regards to form, fit, and function.

Lots of protection installed, and (for upgrades) has:
- a velcro/mesh area in the chest to insert the Nucleon chest protectors
- a velcro area stitched into the hip areas for attaching Nucleon hip protectors (removes need for the padded compression shorts)
- a velcro area up the neck along with a snap button for use with the snap button back protector to keep it in place (or can be removed for use with a shoulder strap back protector

The pros:
- the suit fits (for my height/weight/body profile) and contours to my slim shape and height with a nice comfort value. Everywhere fits exceptionally well... shoulders, elbows, chest, hips. This is including leg length, sleeve length, and groin/crotch area. Obviously "fits" and "comfort" is more so directed to feel of the suit while on the bike, but also feels good unzipped and "unholstered" (hanging off the hips aka half-on/half-off).
- There are little mini-zips on the back of the calf muscle area which act as a suit-widener of sorts in case you have wide calves, similar to a suit case needing a bit wider size for that extra bit of junk you want to pack. I obviously dont need these, as my legs are proportional to my body.
- removable lining, and not difficult to navigate the install/removal of said lining. The aero hump (small plastic piece with velcro/fabric holding it in place) is also removable and is a nice added feature.

The cons:
- I am finding so far is that the knee area is overall a bit bulky in width (in relation to the size of the rider profile the suit is meant for, since i dont have tree trunk legs). The knee protection is race-grade and there isnt much difference in the sizing of this between youth and adult, so im not worried
- Has a very wide stretch leather according panel. Maybe 2 inches less in length and this might be better.

Big difference between the 1 hour of initial wear and sitting on the couch on day 1 and the 2nd hour of wear on day 2, and now its day 3 and went for maybe a 45 min ride on the local backroads on this nice hot Dallas day and the suit feels MUCH better now and 2nd-skin-ish. I'm going to maybe wear it for 1 or 2 more rides and i have a track day planned for August 5th so i'll report back on how it feels at the end of a day in the environment for which its meant, along with some gopro footage so you can see how the suit looks in regards to fit and loose areas while riding on the bike.
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yeah, lol... well ive only been to MSRH once and its the only weekend a particular buddy could go, plus i just got back in the US... seemed like all good excuses to go back

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Apparently I missed this thread a few weeks ago, but what's the TL;DR on all that? I only picked up on the stuff in bold lol Which btw, that reminds me....is the guy with the Aprilia who plays games in his new suits that you mentioned Christian Nemes by any chance?

Suit looks cool though...also nice TV setup. I need to get a new suit soon. I've been rocking the same Alpinestars MX-1 suit since I first started track days in 2012, so it's on its 7th season now. It's so freakin stiff it can damn near stand up by itself now lol Been through 3 crashes, one modification to enlarge the torso, a few tears and holes fixed, and been cleaned only twice in its life lol It was a damn good suit though. It's been discontinued years ago, which is how I got it on clearance sale for $750 when it was a $1400 suit originally.

For my next one, it'll most likely be a custom one. Thinking of either Plus or Heroic, but there are a few other options out there. I would love to get a Dainese D-Air but they're too damn expensive. I don't really want to pay more than about $1000 for a suit.

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Apparently I missed this thread a few weeks ago, but what's the TL;DR on all that? I only picked up on the stuff in bold lol Which btw, that reminds me....is the guy with the Aprilia who plays games in his new suits that you mentioned Christian Nemes by any chance?

Suit looks cool though...also nice TV setup. I need to get a new suit soon. I've been rocking the same Alpinestars MX-1 suit since I first started track days in 2012, so it's on its 7th season now. It's so freakin stiff it can damn near stand up by itself now lol Been through 3 crashes, one modification to enlarge the torso, a few tears and holes fixed, and been cleaned only twice in its life lol It was a damn good suit though. It's been discontinued years ago, which is how I got it on clearance sale for $750 when it was a $1400 suit originally.

For my next one, it'll most likely be a custom one. Thinking of either Plus or Heroic, but there are a few other options out there. I would love to get a Dainese D-Air but they're too damn expensive. I don't really want to pay more than about $1000 for a suit.
well, along with my amazon.com splurge that i usually go on while i'm deployed and bored on a computer at some point (or multiple points, which makes every return xmas in July... this year quite literally), i ended up buying the new MotoGP 2018 game along with the upcoming Formula 1 game, so i'd be lying if i said i didnt coincidentally test out the motogp game while chillin in the new suit, lookin at my new tv and backlights ($15 LED strips https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

nope, not christian nemes, but i take it you have THAT FRIEND as well lol... my video game test only lasted like 20 mins before i was ready for bed. see the pile of junk mail on the floor from sorting a few months of mail buildup?

my next suit's gonna be custom as well, if it gets to that point... only reason i didnt get one this time is because i was mostly lazy and didnt wanna wait and go through the ass pain of research trying to figure out who was currently the recommended guys in the biz as it seems to change every year. my old suit (Cortech) met the intent quite well, and much cheaper of course.
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well, along with my amazon.com splurge that i usually go on while i'm deployed and bored on a computer at some point (or multiple points, which makes every return xmas in July... this year quite literally), i ended up buying the new MotoGP 2018 game along with the upcoming Formula 1 game, so i'd be lying if i said i didnt coincidentally test out the motogp game while chillin in the new suit, lookin at my new tv and backlights ($15 LED strips https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

nope, not christian nemes, but i take it you have THAT FRIEND as well lol... my video game test only lasted like 20 mins before i was ready for bed. see the pile of junk mail on the floor from sorting a few months of mail buildup?

my next suit's gonna be custom as well, if it gets to that point... only reason i didnt get one this time is because i was mostly lazy and didnt wanna wait and go through the ass pain of research trying to figure out who was currently the recommended guys in the biz as it seems to change every year. my old suit (Cortech) met the intent quite well, and much cheaper of course.
The guy I know has not one, but 2 RSV4's and lives in MN which is about the worst state to live in when you're into motorcycles and track days because their season is only May to September usually. Occasionally I see him posting pics on FB of him sitting on his couch or recliner wearing his suit and helmet during the winter, waiting patiently for the first track day in May lol

I plan on getting MotoGP 2018 today or tomorrow. Still need to finish up some more races on Ride 2, but since I'm not very impressed with it, I'll set it aside once I'm done with that. There's this MotoGP eSports thing where they have a weekly challenge. I think the way I understand it is they pick the rider and the track and you have to post a video of your best lap. It's open for all platforms, but they announce a winner for each platform, whoever's got the best lap of course.

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